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Old 04-08-2002, 05:52 PM   #45
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tobiasly
I specifically remember you making statements such as Rumsfeld supporting torture of captured Taliban prisoners (a statement that was conjured up by the news without proof, which Rumsfeld then denied when asked about it), while either inadvertently or intentionally dismissing the other side of the story.
The statement was not conjured and your memory is in error.

1) There was active discussion in this adminstration about how to interogate the Al Qaeda 'second in command' prisioner. They wanted information from him desperately and without delay. That meant keeping him out of Camp X-ray. Techniques being discussed were illegal in the US. So where do they take him? Active discussion in the DoD was to keep in on a ship in international waters or in a prisioner in a third country where those unacceptable 'questioning methods' would be legal.

2) I never mentioned torture of Taliban.
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Rumsfeld suggests torture may be necessary to get information from a recently captured leader of al Qaeda.
There is a major difference between Taliban and Al Qaeda. I referred specifically (although not by name) to interogation methods that the DoD wanted to execute. And yes, torture of this man was being discussed which is why Rumsfeld had to finally deny that torture would be used.

Dhamsaic has responsibily noted (I believe multiple times) my mistakes such as confusion between Ashcroft and Rumsfeld. I want and welcome such criticisms when I make a mistake. But I expect corrections to be done carefully as I have used facts to make those posts. Criticisms of Sharon are not wild speculation nor based upon emotion. They are backed by facts as best that we can obtain. The man is that much of a danger to every reader of this post - as he has been in decades previous. Part of the reason he is so dangerous is that he is so intelligent as to make 'mince meat' of a current US President.

So what is the definition of 'immediately'? Why is a man responsible for the massacre of 5,000 women and children not in The Hague?
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