OC, I understand your position on molecules-to-man.
What I'm asking about is just speciation from apes to man, forgetting all the earlier steps for a moment.
In your mind, could a group of apes speciate to the degree that they became indistinguishable from humans?
Edit to add: I'm in no hurry, so feel free to take a break for awhile before getting back to me. I won't be back online to read it until 6AM tomorrow anyway.