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Originally Posted by Brown Thrasher
I agree with most of what you had to say. I won't state my views on willpower. However, if you ever find yourself in a 12 step meeting, choose your words carefully. The reason being, in all the 12 step meetings i'm aware of, their belief is in a "higher power". The word willpower is a nasty word.
12 step meetings do not preach a religion and they are not kosher to a ceratain religion being discussed. However, they are firm belivers in spirituality....
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The whole AA thing reminds me of a true bottom in a B&D relationship. They draw true empowerment and fulfillment from sublimating their will to that of someone else's.