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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
Either "violence isn't the answer" or "violence is ok sometimes". Can't have it both ways. Do as I say, not as I do?
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OK, you win. I take it back about hitting the teacher. I've never hit another person in my adult life, and I don't believe in violence. I was being dramatic.
mrnoodle, it's nice to see you backpedaling a bit too, and talking about other ways of disciplining besides hitting. I may have misread it, but your post at 12:24 about "hysterical school boards," "anti-discipline advocates," "adults who are terrified to do anything to [unruly kids] for fear of lawsuits," and that "time-out" fail "100% of the time" seemed to advocate hitting as the answer to all these problems. You seemed to be saying that if teachers were allowed to hit students, that would go a long way toward solving the problem of misbehaving students. Perhaps I read too much into that post. Your most recent post, where you say "And for most cases, spanking is NOT the answer." is much more reasonable, and is one I wouldn't have taken issue with.
I understand some parents think spanking is OK. My own parents spanked me from time to time, and I turned out OK. I would never support a ban on parents being able to spank their kids, regardless of my own parenting methods.
Teachers spanking kids is another story. I never witnessed any teachers ever hitting a kid when I was a student in the 70s and 80s. That was 30 years ago, so it's not some new Liberal conspiracy of weak-kneed school boards. Perhaps my schools were different. Teachers shouldn't have that "tool." There are plenty of other tools at their disposal.