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Old 06-26-2002, 04:33 AM   #47
jaguar
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OK, i'm back here now.
Dham, lets go though this. I posted what i posted because you choose the simplest possible conclusion of the facts rather than putting them in context.

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Far and away the biggest problem when it comes to Arafat reigning in militants is that Arafat is unwilling to do so. Images frequently come along of dead "collaborators" being dragged down the streets by militants. This is not possible in Israel, because its police force would put a stop to it. The Palestinian police force is, quite simply, apathetic. They don't care.
The first question is *why would he*
Isreal have offered nothing, nothing real has even been suggested, i don't think if arafat wanted he could reign in militants without being removed himself but even is he could he has no motivation to. The second is simple, if brutal, Mossad is effective, and ruthless, anyone that becomes a mossad turncoat needs to be made a good example of becase they cannot afford to have operations disruped by Mossad. yes, that is brutal.

As for targeting, i don't see much difference between a palastinain woman and 2 of her children who were cut in half on the way to answering the door by an isreli explosive, both were calous, and considering the looting, shooting at medical vehicles, using medical personel as human shields, using civvies as human shields and to test for traps that there is the slighest bit of difference, both sides clearly are not respecting the rules of war. The Isreali sholders are no different to treatment of Vietnamese civvies by US troops during the Vietnam war.
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