[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by mrnoodle

Our model is what they despise. That's why they want us dead.

That is only true of the most hardcore of hardcore terrorists. They are only able to recruit because of actual foreign policy issues.

This is doubletalk. I haven't researched the number, but a great many volunteered specifically for duty in Afghanistan and Iraq after war had already begun. The idea that they are volunteering for some kind of peace corps mission and then being duped into killing civilians discredits their intelligence and their sacrifice.

Your point was that saying the war was wrong was somehow not supportive of the troops. I provided some examples of why the mission is not indistinguishable from the troops. There is as much difference of opinion in the military as there is outside of it. By your logic, holding any opinion is disrespecting at least some of the troops.

The idea that they are volunteering to avoid "someone else [going] in your place" is just...I don't know.

That was one example of "any number of reasons"; the one I hear most often in interviews.

You're using this vast generalization to support your point, and your point is false. You usually catch others doing this -- physician, heal thyself.

You're the one who said this:

Our model is what they despise. That's why they want us dead.

You won't find one that works, and you won't hear your Dem leaders offering one that works, because the one that works is currently being implemented by none other than GW.

How do you define "works"?