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ummm. if pictures of children being killed by soldiers, families torn apart by soldiers, homes being bulldozed by soldiers, haven't had an effect on the American consciousness, why would any of these creative suicides have any. My understanding of the bombers is that they are taking lives for ruining theirs. Plus you have to look at the cultural differences: Buddism says that this is just one stage on a path. For Islam though suicide is itself a sin, but if you are killing enemies of Allah in the act it is no longer suicide and therefore that person can still get into heaven. More of a spiritual loophole there than anything else as far as I can tell.