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Originally posted by jaguar
If people have had proper firearms training and more importantly, take it seriously, that’s fine, but i don't think they all do.
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The image in "your frigging post" doesn't say "a kid isn't safe without an M-16". It says "We teach kids the basics of life...let self-defence be one of them". So, make up your mind: are you in favor of firearms training or not? You've *had* yours, of course...you did say that, right?
Obviously you've *not* had training with non-lethal weapons. Using them effectively is decidedly *not* easier than firearms, as you assert so casually. Of course "spray and pray" looks simple. But it's unlikely to be effective. If I'm defending myself, it will be with the most effective tools available. Probably *not* one that keeps some meddling pipsqueek in their comfort zone.
Look, if the finality of death worries you, don't attack me, and you'll be fine. You'll be safe from *me* anyhow. If somebody *else* attacks you, well, I hope your CS works, or maybe you'd better just call the cops. Hope they show up in time. You mentioned carrying a knife, do be careful you don't do anything lethal with it.
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So are you, otherwise you won't carry a weapon designed and loaded specifically to inflict the maximum damage against your fellow citizen.
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Or various random foreign terrorists.
So, having established we act from similar motivations, I just think my methods work better than yours. <i>Passing laws against guns won't disarm criminals.</i> And I don't care to disarm <b>myself</b> just so you can have a false sense of security. Maybe you *should* stay in the Australian victim disarmament zone.
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I'm curious, what ammo do you use for self defense?
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Why, so you can tell me how inhumane I am for not following the "Geneva Convention" again? I see you've picked up on another canonical prohibitionist rant.
The <i>Hague Convention IV of 1907</i> is probably what you're thinking of. And it doesn't apply; I'm not a combatant. Neither are the cops, which is why they don't restrict themselves to fully metal-jacketed rounds either. They also carry CS, but they certainly don't rely on it. But then, that's a weapon forbidden by the laws of war that you're in *favor* of.
In a self-defense situation, full-metal jacket rounds are more likely to overpenetrate, pass through the target, and strike someone/something else. Of course, you were taught that when you had your firearms training. Right?