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Old 03-20-2006, 09:39 PM   #42
Urbane Guerrilla
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It's morally suspect to pick on crazy people, so I'll try and avoid it -- but tw's views just don't coincide with the world I know.

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He just endorsed Castro's Cuba,
Wanting the Castros hanged for their sins isn't an endorsement of the Castros, not in my book. Castro's Cuba sucks because of Castro's enslavement of it. Cuba may have been a freer place under Fulgencio Bautista! The place could be so nice with a genuine representative democracy governing it. As is well known, a "People's Republic" is an oligarchy and not truly of the "People." Truth in advertising has never been a leftist or communist strong point.

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the American puppet government in S Vietnam,
Let's see, and the genocidal abuse of the South by Hanoi was an improvement over Diem's or Thieu's government exactly how? Two million assorted Vietnamese fleeing south of the 17th Parallel to get away from Ho Chi Minh suggests plenty of Vietnamese understood the situation better than you did. Your leftist-blinkered viewpoint, evidenced by your use of leftist tropes, is showing, tw, and it never shows to your advantage, you silly 'bot. This is why I know more about history than you do: you didn't learn it right, and show no interest in cleaning up your act. That means you can only be one thing, tw: a target for smart people to shoot full of holes. Enjoy a happy career as a colander. Leftists are pretty stupid.

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Poppa Doc and Baby Doc in Haiti,
"Papa Doc" is usually spelled that way, doubtless from the Creole -- I pay attention to this sort of thing, and you do not. The saddest thing about Haiti is that the place peaked in 1802 and has been in decay since. If there is anyone native to Haiti who can actually govern well enough to bring prosperity to a nation that might be an agricultural powerhouse, I've no idea who they are. They spent the bulk of the nineteenth and a bit of the twentieth centuries shuffling presidents in and out: there would be a short period in which a president and his various cronies would loot the treasury, then be kicked out for looting the treasury by armed coup, which would then install another president who would loot for a while and then step two would be repeated, ad infinitum. (Read America's Small Wars for a nutshell of this.)

I can't see how I can honestly be read to support the Duvaliers, father or son. What were they but corrupt pols in the Haitian mold? Why am I construed to endorse such idiots?

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the military junta in Argentina,
Not a democracy, not endorsed. Again, though, tw's leftist/communist bent is naked to view: the junta and Pinochet were the ever-evoked boogeymen in communist palaver, and tw has internalized it all, and will exhibit these under but slight pressure.

Who mourned the Marxist boob, Allende?

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the various uprisings in Central America in mythical promotions of a democracy that simply massacred many innocent people,
By which I suppose he means the Contras. Unfortunately for this perennial Lie of the Left, the Ortega government he champions as the best thing for all Central America since pan blanco rebanado enriquecido was not merely collectivist, but promoted incompetents into office if their commie ideology was strong enough. That wasn't enough to keep the lights on in Managua, and this would have been the same without a blockade as with. No wonder the people revolted and eventually achieved the Chamorrista government, which was a government not cluttered up with Marxism. Tw's insuperable problem is that he believes leftist dictatorships are supposed to be a protected species. How about human beings, tw? Ever think of them? Not that I see, not when the pravda of soviet-style government stuffs your frontal lobes and clamors in your ears and blurs your sight. You lose track of the millions the commies kill, including the commies they kill. That's at least forty million dead folks you're ignoring, fella...

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Charles Taylor
I don't know enough about Charles Taylor to beat you over the head with him, so I'm not going to say much; I hear he's a right jerk. Does one have to be friendly with the United States to become a jerk? Doesn't add up to me. (Who's the guy who just stole the Belarus election? Pretty anti-American, I hear.)

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UG loves dictatorships that pretend to be governments of the people - and then arbitrarily massacre the opposition.
Now here is a spectacularly wrongheaded opinion: my hatred of such regimes is not only visible, it is the central reason I post -- yet to this madman tw, this is evidence of a love. I despise these regimes precisely because of their massacres: the Soviets' Gulag (Gosudarstvennie Upravlyaemye Lagery),and Terror Famine in Ukraine, the Communist Chinese Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, and Tienanmen Square -- all while pretending at democracy's forms and avoiding any of its substance. The total slaughter just from these two leftist giants goes at least forty million persons (and you can bet these were mainly innocents), probably twice that, and perhaps as many as one hundred million. I'm excluding the casualties incurred in the Second World War, which would close to double the above.

There are more moral means of population control!

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Scary is what Urbane Guerilla defines as a democracy.
Let me see if I have this straight: you, tw, are afraid of the United States of America? Well, that could suit a leftist non-democrat, all right; the USA has been the biggest, strongest, richest and best opponent of the Marxists/collectivists/socialists for many decades. Tw, this still says you are scum, and nutso too. Your posts reveal you are no sort of democrat.
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