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Also, UG... I personally find it pretty immature to assume that everyone under the age of what, twenty? twenty-five? is immature and incapable of engaging in a reasonable debate. I know freshmen who are better at debating than many here, and smarter than... some people here. I'm not much over fourteen, UG, and here I am, holding my own, for the most part, with a bunch of people twice my age. I don't presume to have near the experience or knowledge some of you have, but I know what I know. tw is a lot more mature than a lot of people I know, just somewhat long-winded and entrenched in his views.
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