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Old 10-20-2002, 11:46 PM   #13
Xugumad
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sycamore
my new car choices would be:
Opt for the Jetta, it's objectively the best of the ones listed.

The Beetle may be an interesting-looking car, but as far as value-for-money goes, it's overpriced. The Jetta isn't cheap, but you get a lot for your money.

Used Jettas are also very good; the most recent Jetta models (<3 years) are a cut above the rest, however.
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dave
it'll gel up in the winter [diesel]
The direct-injection VW diesel engines are remarkably good at avoiding that. It was certainly a problem with older diesel engines, but VW/Audi/BMW/MB have made incredible progress during the second half of the 90s. Diesel engine cars are usually lower-taxed, sometimes cheaper, and use cheaper fuel - in Europe. With non-diesel gas prices approaching $5/gallon, this is remarkably tempting.
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yeah, you can't go as fast as you can with gas
The VW TDI engines are tuned to prefer low end torque over high max speeds. Considering you will use it for city/highway travel at US speed limits or slightly above, this will be ideal; no need to race a Porsche 911 biturbo down the Autobahn. 90hp is more than plenty for everything you'll probably ever need the car for.
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Undertoad
And it's louder, and more rattle-prone
In average, possibly. In new cars of the makes listed above, only marginally, if they are <5 years old.
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But I've heard that the exhaust is actually more eco-friendly because diesel fuel will burn more completely.
To a certain extent this is true. Diesel exhaust fumes are much more strongly carcinogenic than non-diesel exhaust fumes, however. (there are diverging studies on this subject). Even simple diesel fumes (from pumping gas) are more carcinogenic than gasoline fumes; since both are a considerable health risk, many gas stations in Europe have isolated nozzles which re-absorb any fumes expelled during the pumping process; in Germany, it's been a law since the early-mid 90s. I wouldn't worry about the carcinogenic nature of diesel fumes in the US, however; you've probably inhaled enough truck diesel fumes and gas station fumes in your lifetime to make it a moot point.

(To quote from Chevron's own material safety data sheet:
"POSSIBLE CANCER HAZARD - CONTAINS MATERIAL THAT MAY CAUSE CANCER BASED ON ANIMAL DATA")

X.

Links: http://www.whsc.on.ca/Publications/h...001/diesel.htm
http://www.gpmu.org.uk/hs/health/msg00014.html

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