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Old 07-15-2006, 10:09 AM   #122
Pangloss62
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Join Date: May 2006
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...makes us stand in awe of the stars on a clear summer's night.
I can empathize with you, marichiko. It's clear you desire to have more in your experience of reality than just matter. You're not alone in this. I used to be more like that myself. But now I can't be included in the "us" that stands in "awe" of stars on a clear summer night. Besides, where I live there is no such thing as "a clear summer's night;" to much smog. Although I have been in northern Quebec on a camping trip and saw the great misty road that is the Milky Way; that was cool. Meteor showers too. I admit that watching a meteor sends a little shiver down my spine.

Alas, when I look at stars I see stars. When I see a vivid sunset, I know it's because of all the particulates in the air.

My "Are we not men?" question was a reference to DEVO, the Ohio band that promoted de-volution, a topic that is somewhere on this string; I acknowledge women, men, and hermaphrodites, of course.

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Try reading Edmund O. Wilson for starters.
"for starters?" That sounds like you are some professor and I'm the naive freshman who needs direction in understanding the world.

I've read and enjoy E.O. Wilson. His Ants book was great. And Dennet is a good explicator of some of the things we're talking about. And no, I DO NOT have his robotic dog.

For the record, it's true that the only definitive thing one could say about reality is that "something exists." Perhaps we're all pawns in the dream world of some entity we've never met. I'll take my "leap of faith" into the material world. You're lucky to have faith in something greater than matter; that must be comforting.

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There is no such thing as antisocial personality disorder.
And there is no such thing as bi-polar disorder or Down Syndrome.

Hope everybody is having a good weekend, materially, spiritually, or otherwise.
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