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Old 08-07-2006, 08:26 PM   #31
xoxoxoBruce
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Originally Posted by Hippikos
War historian agreed on several turning points, such as Stalingrad and Midway in the battle in the Pacific. If Hitler could have concentrated on the Western Front only, most likely resulting in long lasting war and/or even peace talks resulting status quo. The German Army was only inches away from capturing Antwerp during the Ardennes battle, which could have resulted in another Dunquerque.
If you consult historians, then you would know they agree, one of Hitlers biggest mistakes was pushing the Eastern Front before finishing off England. That would have forced us to stage, much further from france, and made the defense of Europe much easier for the Nazis.
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As usual you, conveniently, forget the Lancasters. And the P51 would be a complete failure without the British Merlin motor.
No, you conveniently forget the Lancasters couldn't be built fast enough, even with Canadian help, and couldn't be defended on long sorties. That's why they flew at night. The Merlin was a wonderful engine but only one of the great engines we used in that war. There were a bunch of crucial projects the Brits had started, and in some cases got pretty far along, before handing them off to the US, because they didn't have the resources....or the time....to develop them.
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Yes, without Land Lease, the US supplies, their troops, WW2 could not have been successful for the Allies in Europe and I have much respect for Generals like Eisenhower, Patton. But, without Russia, WW2 could also never have been successful for the Allies either. I believe that it was possible that with or without America, the wars still could’ve gone either way. I also believe that by bringing Japan into war against the Allies in WW2, that the US indeed just possibly might have done more harm than good to the British and their Allies.
That's lend-lease, not land-lease...probably a typo, but changes the meaning, considerably. We'll loan or rent it to you....pay us back....I'm waiting.

If you knew your history, you'd know that Germany, Italy, and Japan, were allies, even though we call them the axis, before Pearl Harbor dragged the US into the war. That is why the US declared war on the Nazis...because they were already allied with the Japs. Duh
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To my recollection Russia declared war on Japan only on Aug.8th, 1945? After Hiroshima?
You're recollection is correct. But why didn't the Japs fuck with Russia that was beating up their allies, Germany and Italy? Do you think the US might have something to do with that?
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That didn't stop Teddy Roosevelt from carpet bagging Europe and finishing off Great Brittain as World Power.
Since the Armistice was signed in November of 1918, and Teddy died in January of 1919, he must have been really, really fast.
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