[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

A-10s would fly up to 4 hours covering a downed pilot. A-10s would fly up to 8 hours on a sorte. There is no airborne machine a soldier wants more - A-10s. They are that damn good at ground attack. Nothing is better.

It's a shame were down to 200 of them, patching them back together with spit and baling wire, while building fighters that cost hundreds of millions and are rarely used to their potential.

A-10s could not find even one massive Scud missile in open desert. A-10s and UAVs could not find whole divisions of Serbian armor in Bosnia. xoxoxoBruce - are you saying lesser Israeli UAVs could therefore find concealed and tiny rockets in rough terrain? Only if you believe military propaganda and fiction novels - or MaggieL. No matter how many speculation and numbers are posted, it has never happened.

I don't know what the Israelis have in their bag of tricks, they were far ahead of anyone in the development of UAVs. Our UAVs, however, can spot a man at night, unless he's in a cave or building. I have a film clip of a predator spotting some Iraqis burying an IED in the road and waiting on station until the fighters came and dropped a 500 lb bomb on them....all on film. OK, not film...bits.

Do you really think recon aircraft monitor one spot? Recon aircraft must look everywhere, continuously moving, to get lucky; to find a single target. Do you really think they monitor one spot all day looking for a rocket launched only from that spot? That is what you posted and that is not how air power searches for an enemy.

You don't know how UAVs work, do you? If a UAV saw the rocket launched, it would follow the the launcher sending constant position feedback until the fighters caught up with them, in our military. Again, I don't know how the Israelis work or what they have.

Very few UAVs exist even in the American military. If a UAV gets lucky; sees a fired rocket, then what? An attack aircraft takes many minutes to arrive, then figure out what the UAV was looking at, and then maneuver to fire. Meanwhile rocket and enemy are long gone. Attacks must be on a wide and indiscriminate area. Your post also assumes UAVs are as common as rocks in a quarry. UAV numbers remain few.

Don't tell me what I assume..... you can't even get what I actually posted straight.
You said targets can't be spotted from the air, which is total bullshit. You're not up to speed with the available technology. I didn't claim the Israelis did or didn't do, anything. I don't know. I only know that we can...... or all the clips of them working in Iraq were filmed in the same studio as the moon landing.
Oh, and the example I gave above of the Predator finding the guys burying an IED, the guy controlling the Predator was in the USA.

Name just one war where air power could accurately attack any concealed military in the past 30 years. Name one? You cannot. In every case, ground spotters were required OR the enemy was already flushed out by ground forces into open terrain. Massive NATO attacks on Serbs in Bosnia with weapons the Israelis only wish they had. Where was all that damage? Near zero. Why? No ground spotters. MaggieL knew this when she posted lies. A classic Rush Limbaugh trick. Post a lie and move on hoping others will not see the lie..

Concealed, nope. But if they stay concealed, they're not a problem, are they? It's when they come out to play, they're a problem and they can be spotted from the air. Spotting from the air, spotters on the ground, spies in the enemy camp, nothing is 100% foolproof because you have to get information to the people that can use it, in real time.

Akkar. Israel's intent to attack even innocent Lebanese in a province farthest from war - Akkar. You did not deny Akkar which is the irrefutible fact. Akkar and MaggieL’s intentional lying is the topic. A list of UAVs says nothing relevant.

MaggieL was wrong AND she knew she was wrong. It's that one sided. She posted those biased pro-Israeli lies anyway. Where is a single war that demonstrates otherwise? None. Zero. Does not exist. She lied knowing full well that she was lying.

If Israel could do as MaggieL claimed, then all we need do is send the US Air Force to Darfur – problem solved. Even the US military cannot do that in the wide open and flat lands of Darfur – without ground forces. MaggieL lied. Israeli air attacks were clearly indiscriminate. MaggieL – tell us how air power could also solve Darfur? She cannot for the same reason she lied about Israel in Lebanon.

I'll leave you kids to your discussion, play nice.