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Old 12-05-2002, 10:00 PM   #173
Radar
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ocala, FL
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It is 0 if you can't afford it. You may be able to walk in and be guaranteed service, but if you can't afford the bills you're going to receive from this, you're going to avoid it at all costs.
It's not 0 ever. Even if you can't afford it you will get service. You can be a homeless drunk and walk into an emergency room and get treatment. If you don't pay the bill you can keep going in and still get treatment.

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You want to discredit our medical system?
No I don't want to discredit the medical system. I just want to discredit the AMA and FDA. Our doctors are the best on earth and I'm all for doctors getting certified and still being the best. But I think doctors should be privately certified and other people with medical training shouldn't be prevented from giving care. If they harm someone they will be responsible as any other doctor would be.

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Allow any quack to fool the average American into using unproven medical techniques? That would be a horrible situation.
Who says the medical techniques are unproven? Most Eastern medicine has been used for thousands of years. It couldn't be more proven. But many of those techniques and medicines are outlawed in America.

I'm not saying everyone should see these people for every problem. What I'm saying is that if someone chooses to see someone like that they should be able to see anyone they want, especially if they've got a small problem like the sniffles, a rash, etc.

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It would undermine our faith in the system that you claim is the best in the world, or, at the very least, has the best doctors. Funny how you want to undermine that. Of course, great doctors don't necessarily mean a great system.
It wouldn't undermine anything. It would provide more faith in our health care system because less people would be waiting in emergency rooms, insurance would be cheaper, and we'd still have the best doctors on earth. And you're correct, the best doctors don't necessarily make the best system. America once had the best healthcare system on earth until the government passed the HMO act, started medicare, and otherwise meddled with the free market medical care system.

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Just because they're cheaper doesn't mean they're the lowest cost or the best products. I know there are many people on this board who are less than pleased with both industries.
You're barking up the wrong tree here pal. I've been a computer programmer and network engineer for 17 years. Software now has more features and does more with less effort than ever. Even development is easier. It's also cheaper. So are computers. So is long distance service. And so is music. Music is also digitally mastered and provides superior quality.
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