[bluesdave]

Originally Posted by tw

There is no reason to believe any war with Iran is necessary. Cooperation with Iran's government has repeatedly demonstrated they do not want war and they do not want instability on their borders.

I do not disagree with the principle of co-operation, but with Iran (as with Pakistan and Syria), it is a dangerous path.

Iranian supported insurgency in Iraq is as real as George Jr administration honesty. Al Qaeda in Iraq? At what point do we ignore that myth from George Jr? That Al Qaeda is also believed by those who have respect for Cheney. Al Qaeda in Iraq is mostly a George Jr lie. This Iranian supported insurgency is a myth from the same liars. Iranian supported insurgency is completely contrary to what the Iran nation wants and needs. But it sure is profitable for mafia types.

Nevertheless, Iran is supporting Shiite insurgents in Iraq. I am not supporting GWB, but the facts are undeniable. Coincidently tonight on one of our news broadcasts, they covered a UN summit which is discussing/debating the problems in Iraq, and both Iran and Syria are mentioned frequently. Do you say that the UN is wrong? The same group that has often criticised US policy, and has been pushing for a peaceful solution for years.

So ask yourself where all those American provided $100 bills - tons of pallets of $100 bill - where do you think they went? Remember Vietnam: who was large supplier of the Viet Cong? Americans.

I could teach you about Vietnam, tw. I studied Vietnamese history even while we were still dropping bombs on them. Ho Chi Minh was a long time supporter of the US, and was shocked that the US would not support his dream of driving out the European imperialists (the French), because his forces had rescued hundreds of American troops during WW2. He thought that the US was a friend, not realising that his communist leanings would mark him as an enemy to the extreme right wing elements of the US government. He was desperate for help, and communist China and the USSR (but mainly China), were the only countries willing to help.

BTW, I escaped being conscripted and sent to Vietnam by the skin of my teeth, so lecturing me on Vietnam will get you nowhere.

Iran is far from a threat, but can be as long as we keep hyping George Jr lies. What makes Iran any danger? That 2002 'axis of evil' speech from George Jr.

Nup. Whether it was caused by ideological differences, or direct action, Iran hates America, and Americans to the bone. Their nuclear programme at this time is a joke (North Korea even more so), but Iran does supply conventional weapons and money to insurgents in Iraq and Palestine.