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Originally Posted by Undertoad

However it says that he retired as planned at the end of his four-year term, not that he was "forced out".

In April 2002, 14 months before Shinseki was due to retire, The Washington Post reported, quoting "Pentagon officials", that his replacement had already been selected. ... This reported departure from precedent somewhat undercut Shinseki's authority within the Army.

Shinseki was all but removed from office more than one year earlier because Shinseki was demanding what the Generals needed. George Jr administration was shorting the military at every turn - in complete contradiction to an obscenity laced post by Urbane Guerrilla.

Worse, neither Sec of Defense Rumsfeld nor Asst Sec of Defense Wolfovitz appeared at Shinseki's retirement party. As a result of doing harm to the military, Shinseki's farewell speech stated, first, that there was a difference between being a boss and a leader. Second, Shinseki noted how he started and ended his career the same way. He was wounded three times in Nam including loss of half a foot to a land mine. He was leaving as Chief of the Army the same unhappy way.

George Jr's administration so harmed the military that General Keane, selected to replace Shinseki, instead turned down the job for good reason - the civilian bosses. That knowledge is so understood in the military that Rumsfeld had to bypass all three and four star generals to find a replacement for Shinseki. Rumsfeld had to find a general in of retirement - Shoomaker. Why?

Urbane Guerrilla rewrote history to post this 'mother of all lies'

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The Administration at least tries to let the generals do the job, as it's done since the beginning of fighting (instead of ignoring) the War. The Democrat-controlled Congress is now launching try after try at preventing the generals from doing the job.

Disrespect for the military did not stop there. George Jr could not find a general to command "Mission Accomplished". The most junior commander in country - having only limited experience as a division commander - Gen Sanchez - eventually became commander in Iraq. Those with better experience knew how much contempt the George Jr administration has for the military.

Let's look again at the numbers. Military doctrine said 600,000 troops were neeed to create the peace - after the fall of Baghdad. Scowcroft and other well respected military experts said we needed 500,000 in Iraq last summer. Shinseki only wanted a very conservative 300,000. Therefore Shinseki had to be compromised. George Jr only provided a paltry 130,000 and started reducing that numbers when the number of troops required should have been increasing.

Urbane Guerrilla rewrites history. He says George Jr never shorted the General of troops. We know Urbane Guerrilla is lying. Even his profanity increases when UG knows he is lying.