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tw · 09-17-2001, 03:55 PM

Although not proven, it appears defacto that bin Laden is the primary target of this war. However Bush has also included others, unnamed, on our 'Enemies List'. Anyone who provided aid and support to bin Laden will also appear on that list - we think. So who is on that list?

The obvious suspect nations are Afghanistan and Iraq. (Ironically, Iran's response could result in an improved America/Farsi relationship).

If Afghanistan is on the list, the military callup will be mostly light infantry and airborne equipment. The US Army has yet to trust Delta, et al to conduct any serious military operations. In fact the US military so feared to commit 'sneakies' to any operation in Iraq, that eventually and out of frustration, it was the British SAS that finally stopped most Scud missile launches in Western Iraq and only after British government demanded that the SAS be permitted to do so. Neither the Air Force could nor US special forces tried.

But a war in Afghanistan must be using light infantry and Airborne resources to back up Special Forces. Again, this will be quite a reversal in Pentagon thinking. (Again aircraft carriers will be useless in battle).

If Iraq is on the list, then the US will have reason to go to Baghdad. However, and again, this will require support from adjacent countries. Saudia Arabia is unlikely to support such an operation. Turkey, whose President wanted to conduct their own invasion of Iraq in 1990, does not have the same, gun-ho leadership. IOW if we go to Baghdad, it will test most decisively the leadership abilities of George Jr. He does not have anyone the equivalent (I fear) of James Baker who so phenomenally put together the coalition that George Sr. required. If Iraq is proven complicatory, then Geroge Jr has all but required us to invade Baghdad.

In every case; in every failure; and every resulting action was previously predicted by the many who 'come from where the work gets done'. Air crew complaints; even testimony before Congress that was ignored, is now getting consideration in Congress. If Congress is really more interested in more than their own self serving biases, then they will do what every - yes every - relevant security organization has long requested. They have all demanded the closing of National (Reagan) Airport. Unfortunately for us, National Airport has only had one supporter - a self serving Congress.

If Congress is finally interatest in national security, then National Airport will never reopen. But Congress must also address another issue they have ignored.

Here is the rub. These terrorist activities did not require support from any nation. This and previous operations only required cash - lots of cash. bin Laden has that cash. But who is his banker? Again, people who 'come from where the work gets done' have been complaining bitterly about our International Banking system. Every attempt to trace bin Laden's cash has been thwarted by some members of the international banking system. That system is probably the real source of bin Landen's support. The international banking system is probably more responsible for current events than any nation. Certain country's international banking systems should really be on that "enemies list".

International bankers and international regulators have complained for more than the last decade that some countries openly support international corruption just to obtain more banking business. First nations that come to mind - Cayman Islands and Switzerland. But the list of ten countries most likely to have provided the finanical support for bin Laden is rather interesting. It does not include Cayman Islands or Switzerland. Although I don't currently have the list, these two countries are on that list are representative of that list: Bahamas and Israel. Other members (I think) had been posted by me previously in The Cellar.

The US has had the muscle but not the will power to expose and eliminate these gapping holes in international corruption. It may have taken 5,000 lives - American and International - to finally go to war on those who financed current events. The corrupt members of the International finance community should be a major frontline of this newly declared 'war'. It is indeed a new kind of war. Just that the public has yet to hear who has really provided aid and support to the primary suspect.

The 'Enemies List' may not include nations. It may actually include the banking systems in countries we consider friendly. Again, Congress did not have the will power to address this security problem. Hopefully they will not only close National Airport, but will also empower the international banking community to punish those rouge international bankers. The most important support that bin Laden's people got was international finance. Yes, it will be a new kind of war.

09-17-2001, 03:55 PM	#1
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Who is on the "Enemies List" Although not proven, it appears defacto that bin Laden is the primary target of this war. However Bush has also included others, unnamed, on our 'Enemies List'. Anyone who provided aid and support to bin Laden will also appear on that list - we think. So who is on that list? The obvious suspect nations are Afghanistan and Iraq. (Ironically, Iran's response could result in an improved America/Farsi relationship). If Afghanistan is on the list, the military callup will be mostly light infantry and airborne equipment. The US Army has yet to trust Delta, et al to conduct any serious military operations. In fact the US military so feared to commit 'sneakies' to any operation in Iraq, that eventually and out of frustration, it was the British SAS that finally stopped most Scud missile launches in Western Iraq and only after British government demanded that the SAS be permitted to do so. Neither the Air Force could nor US special forces tried. But a war in Afghanistan must be using light infantry and Airborne resources to back up Special Forces. Again, this will be quite a reversal in Pentagon thinking. (Again aircraft carriers will be useless in battle). If Iraq is on the list, then the US will have reason to go to Baghdad. However, and again, this will require support from adjacent countries. Saudia Arabia is unlikely to support such an operation. Turkey, whose President wanted to conduct their own invasion of Iraq in 1990, does not have the same, gun-ho leadership. IOW if we go to Baghdad, it will test most decisively the leadership abilities of George Jr. He does not have anyone the equivalent (I fear) of James Baker who so phenomenally put together the coalition that George Sr. required. If Iraq is proven complicatory, then Geroge Jr has all but required us to invade Baghdad. In every case; in every failure; and every resulting action was previously predicted by the many who 'come from where the work gets done'. Air crew complaints; even testimony before Congress that was ignored, is now getting consideration in Congress. If Congress is really more interested in more than their own self serving biases, then they will do what every - yes every - relevant security organization has long requested. They have all demanded the closing of National (Reagan) Airport. Unfortunately for us, National Airport has only had one supporter - a self serving Congress. If Congress is finally interatest in national security, then National Airport will never reopen. But Congress must also address another issue they have ignored. Here is the rub. These terrorist activities did not require support from any nation. This and previous operations only required cash - lots of cash. bin Laden has that cash. But who is his banker? Again, people who 'come from where the work gets done' have been complaining bitterly about our International Banking system. Every attempt to trace bin Laden's cash has been thwarted by some members of the international banking system. That system is probably the real source of bin Landen's support. The international banking system is probably more responsible for current events than any nation. Certain country's international banking systems should really be on that "enemies list". International bankers and international regulators have complained for more than the last decade that some countries openly support international corruption just to obtain more banking business. First nations that come to mind - Cayman Islands and Switzerland. But the list of ten countries most likely to have provided the finanical support for bin Laden is rather interesting. It does not include Cayman Islands or Switzerland. Although I don't currently have the list, these two countries are on that list are representative of that list: Bahamas and Israel. Other members (I think) had been posted by me previously in The Cellar. The US has had the muscle but not the will power to expose and eliminate these gapping holes in international corruption. It may have taken 5,000 lives - American and International - to finally go to war on those who financed current events. The corrupt members of the International finance community should be a major frontline of this newly declared 'war'. It is indeed a new kind of war. Just that the public has yet to hear who has really provided aid and support to the primary suspect. The 'Enemies List' may not include nations. It may actually include the banking systems in countries we consider friendly. Again, Congress did not have the will power to address this security problem. Hopefully they will not only close National Airport, but will also empower the international banking community to punish those rouge international bankers. The most important support that bin Laden's people got was international finance. Yes, it will be a new kind of war.