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Gannet495 · 07-30-2007, 07:41 AM

> Christianity has already passed through that "convert or die" stage.

not really...

Luk 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

If Jesus said "repent or perish", its a permanent part of Christianity.

Thankfully, Christians (hopefully) understand that the "perishing" is not to be done at THEIR hand but at GOD's hand-- Jesus' message here is for YOU (the christian, the person hearing Jesus that believes him) to repent, and not to focus on the sins of others but to focus on one's own sins and repent of them and THEMSELF love one another fervently.

There's nothing incorrect about "repent or perish" - all of the unrepentant will be cast into the lake of fire - but things like, oh, say, the spanish inquisition (NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!) occur when power-hungry vile and violent (so-called) Christians (wolves in sheep's clothing) force people to comply with the Law, whereas they should be preaching the good news of the gospel (forgiveness of sins through Jesus' blood on the cross).

07-30-2007, 07:41 AM	#32
Gannet495 Disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, God's Son Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 22	> Christianity has already passed through that "convert or die" stage. not really... Luk 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. If Jesus said "repent or perish", its a permanent part of Christianity. Thankfully, Christians (hopefully) understand that the "perishing" is not to be done at THEIR hand but at GOD's hand-- Jesus' message here is for YOU (the christian, the person hearing Jesus that believes him) to repent, and not to focus on the sins of others but to focus on one's own sins and repent of them and THEMSELF love one another fervently. There's nothing incorrect about "repent or perish" - all of the unrepentant will be cast into the lake of fire - but things like, oh, say, the spanish inquisition (NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!) occur when power-hungry vile and violent (so-called) Christians (wolves in sheep's clothing) force people to comply with the Law, whereas they should be preaching the good news of the gospel (forgiveness of sins through Jesus' blood on the cross).