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Originally Posted by yesman065
NO The first question to be asked here was how can I get the children on THAT bus taken care of - period. The second one was every other human in that situation and a VERY DISTANT third, at best was how can we do something to protect the children everywhere else who are on school busses at 9:00 at night. Prevention is important, but in a crisis situation ACTIONS speak a lot louder than questions.
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So how did you get those children off and taken care of - since you worry about things relevant? Those in MN responded accordingly. Why do you associate yourself with them? We could have sucked our thumbs and accomplished just as much. That school bus was their concern - not yours. To put it at 'concern number one' is an emotional response - not logic.
As posted repeatedly, people who must be concerned for those children were at the bridge. That definitely was not Yesman065 who would somehow save children by worrying?
Whereas you were concerned with details you could do nothing about, instead, I was more concerned with the bigger picture - and things I might be able to accomplish.
But again, so as to be clear because assumptions, speculations and implications now routinely become conclusions. Nothing here is an insult or an attack. Demonstrated is exactly how two people see things completely different - exactly as posted in the very first paragraph. For a bonus, demonstrated is how one has an emotional meltdown over a simple logical comparison - to wildly assume an insult where none existed.
Your offer was simple. You stopped posting attacks and the only time I demonstrated what an insult really looks like then stopped - just as I stated. See how easy it works? If you were making so other offer, well, I don't read nor even consider things implied.
Meanwhile, when you become a perfect example for a point, then I will use you accordingly. Again, that is not an insult even though I can already (all but) hear you assuming so. Whereas we outside of MN needed to see the bigger picture (ie a bridge fails every week), instead, Yesman065 worries about kids he can do nothing for (and calls that responsible action?). But again, demonstrated is a perfect comparison of how two people see the exact same event differently. What followed is how one takes personal insult to what was a simple logical comparison.
So what was the larger point? Intended was to demonstrate how some people see only tactical objectives when the strategic objective is looming and requires attention. Demosntrated is how many cannot see the strategic objective - the bigger picture. We never got there. You took insult where none existed.
For us, that single school bus situation was solved the minute that bridge collapsed. What remained was a problem only for people on that bridge. Apparently others (including UT) never grasp that point. The minute that bridge collapsed, our immediate concern was why and what other school busses are at risk. For example, how many bridges of that design exist in your county? Three exist in MN. Did you know that? Do you know those answers that are very much relevant if concerned for the safety of your peers? Why not? Later we look back to see if others whose job were those kids got done.
Maybe you worry about things that cannot be solved. So tell us. How many bridges in your area have the same non-redundant design? Did you ask? Is anyone? Did you even ask if anyone is asking or instead worry about insults that never existed? Or do we simply wait for another school bus to fall?