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Old 09-18-2007, 02:33 PM   #51
rkzenrage
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One think most have issues with is, with matters of integrity, I do not feel a need to take other's emotions into consideration.
Some take issue with that. I think it's childish.

This issue in the West of feeling good about ourselves, feeling proud of our accomplishments, taking compliments that are due and accepting aptitude is really sad and I discourage it among my students.

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True humility is about not bragging and not setting yourself above others or comparing yourself to others... has nothing to do with my point.
Completely separate issue.

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Again.
Geez... reading again.
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I'm just gonna say it - I'm lost here, I must be reading the wrong words - what is your point? The issue of the West or taking compliments, or True humility?

It's probably me, but I really don't understand.
Which one, you are looking at three separate posts?
The problem with the West is that we look to others for self-worth. Others do not matter in that judgment.
True humility, the same, it is not judged against the actions or talent of others but what you can do compared with what you are capable of.
One can learn from others, but I always discourage my students from comparing themselves to/with others... it is a mistake and cannot be done accurately, so it should not be attempted.
You are automatically limiting yourself. The only thing you should do in regards to others is try to do better than they. Even that should not be a goal... that is a comparison. But, "I can do that" is acceptable.
There is nothing wrong with it, people think one should not do it because it is "arrogant" or not humble... bullshit. Humility is about respect and reverence not limitations.
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