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Old 06-11-2003, 07:59 AM   #77
Griff
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Originally posted by Undertoad

Oh well, impeachment was a lovely fantasy while it lasted. Strange, though, how it's an anti-right-wing fantasy here in the US, while in the UK it's an anti-left-wing fantasy.

Meanwhile, paraphrasing Christopher Hitchens on Hardball tonight: "If there truly are no WMDs then it would appear that Hussein is, by whatever process, disarmed... which he wasn't in 1998... and some people seem to be unhappy about that fact."
Chris intentionally misses the whole point. If Hussein had the weapons, where are they now? Did Bush's war just make the world a lot more dangerous? We reportedly had one nut controlling WMDs. If he had significant quantities, I would suggest that the materials are now in unknown hands. Nice job George a regional problem just went global.

My impeachment fantasy is this- If an administration comes into power with plans to use the lives of American servicemen and the treasure of the American people to satisfy their own empire building madness, the knowlege that Congress has the stones to impeach could be an effective deterent. It is not enough that we change tyrants every 4 or 8 years, the office must be reduced. I had high hopes when the Reps were whoopin up on Clinton but they attacked the man not the office. Unfortunately, Bush hasn't had an effective opposition either. That flag is practically painted on and the Democrats, loving the power that they have given the Executive, are afraid to apply the necessary solvent.

Kagan makes an interesting point but lets not pretend that he has no stake in this arguement, since he is a major player in The Project for the New American Century.

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Originally posted by tw
First Democrats must have a political agenda.
It wouldn't be popular so I don't expect it, but the Dems could stand for a reasonable foreign policy.

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
...you just want to see a cat fight.
Guilty as charged.
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