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Old 10-18-2001, 07:10 PM   #57
elSicomoro
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Originally posted by leif
I was complaining, as were humans rights groups all over the world.
No doubt that the US commits human rights violations...the death penalty comes to mind. But it was an accidental strike during a military action. Hence why there wasn't that much complaining regarding the situation after the initial incident.

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How is it that we can justify killing civilians so eaisily yet be surprised when someone strikes back at our civilians?
It's quite simple really. Military action. We were not battling any country as of September 11, 2001--unless you can really count Iraq. There was no real need to get bin Laden at that point...at least in the eyes of the US Government.

NO ONE wants to see civilians die. Lord knows I don't. And I'm not a big fan of a long-scale war. And I don't think getting bin Laden is going to solve the problem of terrorism. But it will eradicate the US of its most dangerous enemy...and hopefully take out some of the al-Queda network in the process.

Look at it this way as well--we are attacking a barren isolated country that doesn't offer the US jack shit. There's a rarity.

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and are really just part of the war here at home (public relations). After all, you just used them as justification for a pro-bombing argument. ;-)
I did not say that. It was merely a point. The US was dropping food to Afghanistan before we started the bombing raids. I knew that...and I'm sure a lot of educated Americans knew that as well.

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I don't mean to ruffle feathers; I've been reading this board for a while now and I like this group! I just think that there isn't ever justification for killing civilians.
Okay, let's take the rationale and apply it to World War II for a minute. Lots and lots of innocent folks were killed. But had we tried to play nice, would Germany and Japan have ever surrendered? It took not one, but TWO nuclear bombs to get Japan to surrender. Was it horrible? Absolutely! Necessary? Yes.

In the end, war is a problem, never a solution. However, even I (the idealistic one) know good and well that you cannot avoid casualties in fighting a battle. Do you think that the US could actually NEGOTIATE with the Taliban? Highly unlikely.

You can't reason with stupid.

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