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Old 07-05-2008, 10:58 PM   #3
Radar
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I have never denied that all men and women are created equally, and that freedom is for all people. Our founding fathers most certainly didn't want us to become involved in entangling alliances, or to use the U.S. military to win freedom for any nation but our own. This is not an isolationist or xenophobic policy. Claiming it to be is merely a crutch for those who can't defend their own position...most likely because there is no valid defense for war mongering.

I'd be willing to bet that I can provide far more examples of our founders being against the insane and idiotic foreign policy supported by non-libertarians like UG than he can find to the contrary. But since he wants to quote other presidents, I can include them too.

Let's see what people far more intelligent than UG have to say on the matter.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Albert Einstein
"Force always attracts men of low morality."

-Albert Einstein

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayn Rand
"Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives."

-Ayn Rand

Quote:
Originally Posted by Benjamin Disraeli
"War is never a solution; it is an aggravation."

-Benjamin Disraeli

Quote:
Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin
"There never was a good war or a bad peace."

-Benjamin Franklin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Banjamin Harrison
"We Americans have no commission from God to police the world."

-Benjamin Harrison

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarence Darrow
"True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else."

-Clarence Darrow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Congressman Ron Paul
"Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms."

-Congressman Ron Paul

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.S. Lewis
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised "for the good of its victims" may be the most oppressive."

-C. S. Lewis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Turner
"Today the real test of America's power and wisdom is not our capacity to make war but our capacity to prevent it."

-Dale Turner

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Friedman
"The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations."

-David Friedman

Quote:
Originally Posted by David L. Wilson
"War creates peace like hate creates love."

-David L. Wilson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwight D. Eisenhower
"War settles nothing."

-Dwight D. Eisenhower

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward M. Kennedy
"Violence is an admission that one's ideas and goals cannot prevail on their own merits."

-Edward M. Kennedy

Quote:
Originally Posted by General Smedley Butler
"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights."

-General Smedley Butler

Quote:
Originally Posted by General Vo Nguyen Giap
"Any forces that would impose their will on other nations will certainly face defeat."

-General Vo Nguyen Giap (Vietnam)

Quote:
Originally Posted by George Orwell
"Political language. . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable"

-George Orwell

Quote:
Originally Posted by G.K. Chesterton
"The only defensible war is a war of defense."

-G. K. Chesterton


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermann Hesse
"Every politician in the world is all for revolution, reason, and disarmament--but only in enemy countries, not in his own."

-Hermann Hesse

Quote:
Originally Posted by H. L. Mencken
"I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone."

-H. L. Mencken

Quote:
Originally Posted by Issac Asimov
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."

-Issac Asimov

Quote:
Originally Posted by James Madison
"Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other."

-James Madison

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean-Luc Godard
"Killing a man in defense of an idea is not defending an idea; it is killing a man."

-Jean-Luc Godard

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Adams
"Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war."

-John Adams

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Quincy Adams
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all."

-John Quincy Adams

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justice Louis D. Brandeis
"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."

-Justice Louis D. Brandeis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahatma Gandhi
"Liberty and democracy become unholy when their hands are dyed red with innocent blood."

-Mahatma Gandhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahatma Gandhi
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?"

-Mahatma Gandhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Nothing good ever comes of violence."

-Martin Luther King, Jr.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Gillespie
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power."

-Michael Gillespie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pope John Paul II
"Violence and arms can never resolve the problems of men."

-Pope John Paul II

Quote:
Originally Posted by Congressman Ron Paul
"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people."

-Congressman Ron Paul

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none."

-Thomas Jefferson

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas Paine
"An army of principles can penetrate where an army of soldiers cannot."

-Thomas Paine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltaire
"It would be easier to subjugate the entire universe through force than the minds of a single village."

-Voltaire

It seems as though our founders all agree with me that using the U.S. military to start unprovoked wars to "liberate" others is insane...and so do the most influential people who ever lived, including the giants of libertarianism.
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