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Originally Posted by regular.joe
I am not a dog. 2 is not equal to 4. I can prove the negative statement, with rigor. Yes, you can prove a negative.
what I'm saying is that the idea of not being able to prove a negative is not found in logic. A negative may be proven or disproved with logic. Hence "not proving a negative" has nothing to do with proving or disproving the existence of God. Which by the way is a really bad thing to debate. Discussion is nice. I kind of look at it like coke and pepsi, no commercial ever changed my mind about how coke kicks the pants off of pepsi.
I will say again, that in any system there are statements that are true that cannot be proved. I know, I'm being a stickler for accuracy in language here. I think it is important to use the proper language for the ideas being expressed.
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Well that's chock-o-block full of fail...
I stated clearly before, proving a negative is only possible in logic.
In an empiricist model you can only show a lack, a zero value or a positive value. There is no negative vacuum, there is no negative Stasis. You can't measure a negative value of an absolute.
And why is discussing the evidence for the existence of deity a bad thing? I quite enjoy it. God doesn't seem to have a problem with it either as I've gotten no memo otherwise.