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Old 12-19-2008, 06:15 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by regular.joe View Post
I maintain that to if it is true that there is no God, then there cannot be free will. Therefore we cannot make up our own beliefs or come to our own conclusions in any kind of morality.
I admire the clarity of this post, but the first inference has me stumped.

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...if ... there is no God, then there cannot be free will.
Why not?

There is an argument which says that if there is a God then there cannot be free will (since divine omniscience implies perfect foreknowledge which seems to entail determinism).
There are also arguments that if we don't have free will, then there is no God (since the blame for the existence of evil in the world can then be attributed to the free will of humans, rather than God).

What's your reasoning, Joe?
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