rather than watch this go back and forth for the next four days with no change in opinions, dmg - please allow me to summarize what you will read if you continue this thread:
radar: we have natural rights that do not come from the government and the government has no right to step on those rights. if your neighbor was to shoot heroin into his scrotum while giving proper meth cooking directions to 13 illegal immigrants each holding a 50cal machine gun and laughing about the small thermonuclear device they've (paid for with money they saved by not paying those pesky illegal income taxes) built to protect their batch of biological weapons the government has no right to intervene because your neighbor is simply exercising his natural rights.
I think that about covers radar's beliefs.
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