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Originally posted by juju
I think what you mean by "hard wired" is that when animals have intercourse, it gives them intense pleasure. Don't you think that this reward mechanism is a pretty strong incentive for doing it? If not, why has the pleasure reward even evolved? Surely a species that is hard wired to have sex for the purposes of propogating its DNA would need no pleasure incentive at all. They'd do it just for the reason you say they do it. <i>[edit: and of course, if what you say is true, then they wouldn't hump our legs.]</i>
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Juju, I'm going to have to revert to my Dave philosophy on this. Don't "think what [ I ] mean", I meant what I said. The term "hard-wired" is refering to "innate behavior", ie. "inborn" behavior, meaning animals don't think about it, they just do it because that's what their brains tell them to do. And, their brains aren't telling them to do it for pleasure, but do it to reproduce and pass on their genes in order to insure the survival of their species. Other than humans, animals don't know why they need to have sex, only that they must do it.
Disregard humans for a moment. I don't believe that sex provides "intense pleasure" for animals and therefore your pleasure reward theory is irrelevant. I agree with your statement, "Surely a species that is hard wired to have sex for the purposes of propogating its DNA would need no pleasure incentive at all. They'd do it just for the reason you say they do it." This is exactly my point. Now as far as humans go, I don't know how sex has gone from being an act of procreation to being an act of self-gratification. This is one for a human behaviorist, which I am not.
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Originally posted by juju
Also, although I know exactly what you mean, I don't think that species or Nature have a "purpose". I realize it's just a poorly chosen word, though.
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Revert to Dave theory. I meant what I said. Nature certainly does have a "purpose", but not a "goal" as you stated in a previous post when once again you were trying to interpret the meaning of my commentary. [Juju said..."That makes no sense. What does it mean for it to be "hard wired" into their brain, if not that they ponder the concept? Unless you are saying that nature or evolution has a goal, which it most definitely does not.] I am agreeing with you right now, Nature has no "goal" in that there is an ultimate ending point for Nature to reach, but its purpose is "survival of species". Survival of species is hinged on them reproducing.