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Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
Juju, I'm going to have to revert to my Dave philosophy on this. Don't "think what [ I ] mean", I meant what I said. The term "hard-wired" is refering to "innate behavior", ie. "inborn" behavior, meaning animals don't think about it, they just do it because that's what their brains tell them to do. And, their brains aren't telling them to do it for pleasure, but do it to reproduce and pass on their genes in order to insure the survival of their species. Other than humans, animals don't know why they need to have sex, only that they must do it.
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Dave is a jerk. I really wouldn't recommend taking on his philosophies. But that's your call, of course.
In any case, I wasn't trying to deviously alter what you said in an attempt to undermine you. I just thought that's what you meant by the word. In truth, I don't think either of us can prove what goes on in an animals' mind. So it's all pretty much speculation.
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Disregard humans for a moment. I don't believe that sex provides "intense pleasure" for animals and therefore your pleasure reward theory is irrelevant.
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Because you don't agree with me, my hypothesis is irrelevant? Can't I have more credit than that?
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Nature certainly does have a "purpose", but not a "goal" as you stated in a previous post when once again you were trying to interpret the meaning of my commentary. I am agreeing with you right now, Nature has no "goal" in that there is an ultimate ending point for Nature to reach, but its purpose is "survival of species". Survival of species is hinged on them reproducing.
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So, okay, first of all, what is the difference between a goal and a purpose?
Er.. secondly.. of course I'm trying to interpret what you said. I'm trying to understand you. That's communication.