[Whit]

      Dude, first off, we've been no more insulting to you than you have been to us. That's the norm for the cellar. You've been here long enough to know that and deal with it. It's late so I'm just gong to assume you're tired.
      Now, no you didn't say tormented. You did suggested that they would "have enough pain inflicted to wish they'd never been born." I didn't say slaughter houses were happy places. I just don't think they take the time and effort to inflict the kind of pain you're talking about. It's much easier to kill an animal quickly and painlessly. Especially when they are as big as a cow.
      By the by, I lived by a dairy as a child, the man that owned the place made a point of keeping the cattle healthy with plenty of pature to roam and food to eat. What more does a cow need to be happy? Oh yeah, they had a couple of places to go for shelter against inclement weather, though they never did, not even in a hail storm. They really did seem, well content.