[jaguar]

Its the centralisation and agregation of htat data that makes it one step more dangerous.

Assuming the scope of use of these things and thier virtually mandatory nature (like social security numbers) they detailed record of your actions and movements that woiuld be put together and accessable instantly is a scary thought. Realtime tracking of your location that previously would have required totaly access to a nubmer of private databases.

However if EasyPass does not threaten your liberties

Actually - yes ti does its a tradeoff people make for ease of living. I'm quite sure, as a similar system was implimented ehre on a smaller scale (less tollroads) and many choose again'st it for the exact reason you are saying is non-existant. To argue that it will be volantary is an absolutle crock of shit. THe fact it that for govermental urposes the system msut require nealry everyone with any degree of mobility around society to have it if it is to serve a useful purpose to law enforcement. It will be similar to a social security number.

Then there are Bank Cards. Heaven fear the end of the universe! Not only can they track you (and they do so) but they take your picture! They also take pictures of your companions. They will get you through your friends! Now there is something really to fear. ATMs are one step short of big brother monitors. They can track your card use, take your picture, and they can be everywhere monitoring your movements without knowledge - taking pictures as you move about even if you don't use that BankCard any more.

Oh please. For a start the angle of hte cameras is such that you'd ahve fantastic picutres of peoples bodies but no head for random shots and that is a PRIVATE COMMERCIAL DATABASE. Which isdifferent form a GOVERMENT CONTROLLED DATABASE.

We know that no NID means you WILL have less liberties as your good name sits like a target just waiting for anyone to steal

Carefuly chosen words there for someone who distains emotion in rational arguements. TO full steal an identity you ned an array of documents that is not all that eeasy to eachieve and christ, you think and NID is going ot be totally secure?? What are the going to sue? Magstrip? Smartcard? all are pretty hack-up able.

Your arguement seems to be that we have no civil liberties and rights to privicy as it is so lets roll over and cop a little more. Have very saddening.

I read a fear of any system that exists even though you choose not to participate. It sounds psychotic; not logical.

Sounds like someone useing a commonly used debating tactic of taking an arguement beyond its logical limit to me.