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Old 11-28-2001, 01:31 PM   #87
dave
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Originally posted by MaggieL
As for the "unfortunate" drunk, as I said, I think he's Darwin Award fodder. Anybody who's *that* fucked up wandering around outside his home is a public menace. What if he'd stumbled out into the street in front of a car at that hour? He might have caused an accident that injured or killed someone else who *wasn't* being an asshole at the time.
I'm not sure we can make any kind of judgement on him. Yeah, he was excessively drunk. I personally am opposed to people being un-sober - so I can make no apologies for him there (though I still don't think we can judge - any number of things can lead to excessive drinking).

Sure, he could have wandered into the road and gotten hit by a car, possibly injuring or killing someone else. That would have been tragic. But he didn't. He got confused, tried to get back into the house, and was murdered for it. What if a blind person loses their seeing-eye dog, stumbles in front of a car, gets hit and kills the driver? Is it their fault for being out in society? Are they a Darwin Award nominee for being in a crowded city while being blind? How do you judge that?

Let me pose an unlikely, yet not impossible, scenario for you.

Robin goes out with some guy. Seems like an alright guy. Decides to have some drinks. Maybe a few too many drinks. Maybe it feels really good so she gets fucking shitfaced. This guy does the respectable thing (after letting her get totally trashed) and drops her off in front of your house. But because she's totally trashed, she knocks on the front door of another house. No one's answering, and she starts yelling "Mom! Let me in!" Not 5 minutes later, she's laying dead on the front patio/porch/stoop with 3 bullet holes in her head and a few in her abdomen/chest. Would you honestly say the same thing about that? "Well, I loved her, but her mental deficiencies coupled with her pathetic judgement render her a fine nominee for the Darwin Awards." Come on. Of course you wouldn't.

My point is, I sense this feeling of elitism over the drunk guy. Did he make a bad decision, both in getting drunk and in going outside to urinate? Obviously. But it shouldn't have killed him. I think that maybe if he had done something that's so obviously stupid and carries a very real possibility of, uh, being removed from the gene pool, then it would be "Darwin Award fodder". But that's not what happened. He made a little slip up that probably thousands of people have done and survived. He just happened to have an overly-eager-to-use-his-weapon neighbor.

I don't think we can judge him based on what we know. I don't think we can say any more than "it's a bad idea to get that drunk" and "it's a doubly bad idea to go outside when you're that drunk". Questioning his intelligence is beyond any of us.
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