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Old 12-15-2009, 10:10 PM   #81
Urbane Guerrilla
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No one is expecting to "force Western democracy" on anyone, Radar. The force part of the scenario, as I never tire of repeating so eventually even one so blockheaded as yourself will be unable to deny, is there to remove the antilibertarian forces -- which make no mistake will be in play. They should be anticipated, and neutralized. It matters damned little except in dollars and cents how much effort or forcibleness the neutralization requires.

The "don't force Western democracy" is a leftist-liberal trope, anyway, Radar. Heck, it is remarkable how much an alleged Libertarian sounds just like a blame-America-first leftist Democrat -- not enough faith in the goodness of democracy which had to originate somewhere, north, south, east, or west. Too lame.

Your position is narrow because it is confined within the borders of the United States, Radar. That's too small, particularly for me. It is isolationist because, well, the US paradigm is, reversing the British Empire dictum, "Trade follows the flag," "The flag, when necessary, follows trade." On numerous occasions when banana-republic autocrats have trespassed upon American business' property rights within their nations, it has been found necessary. Until autocracy is banished from the globe, there is not much prospect that it will ever become unnecessary. Your position resembles old-fashioned American isolationism in another particular in that neither those old grumps nor you aimed to cut off trade. Even the worst policymaking gaffe in the protectionist Smoot-Hawley tariffs was only aimed at rejiggering trade, not at ending it altogether.

Example, hah? Just what effin' example -- and where? Yep, that's what I thought. No "example" can be found. The LP isn't even trying missionaries. You are banking upon a zero, but I am unhappy with the results so far of this banking upon an absence. Out upon this "example" blithering.

The US military, happily, is not Constitutionally defensive, and you shall not and cannot make it so. When will you learn I will not hear that unfounded idea? Sometime in the Third Millenium? You adduce no proof, so you can only become offensive. How's that working for you in the debate, eh? Honestly, your inability to learn anything suggests a two-digit-only IQ, jiving with the way your personality forces your ratiocination down. If the US military is defensive, then tyranny wins. Tyranny, I say, must not win. You, contrariwise, care nothing about that. This is not the mentality of an intelligent man, but of a brute.

So, being acquainted with you for some time now, I conclude that you have absolutely no business in politics whatsoever. You may have talent in IT; stick to your last. Mankind -- about mankind you know less than you do of the Constitution.
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