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Old 11-26-2003, 03:28 PM   #212
quzah
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Originally posted by ladysycamore
Correct. It's nobody's business what they do to each other.
What? Ok, let's get this straight: "NA" like to be recognized as each their own "nation". The Charokee Nation, the Apache Nation, etc. So it's OK for all of these "somewhat related nations" to kill eachother, but when an outside "nation" comes in, it's wrong? Am I the only one who things this is absolutely absurd?

So in your words, only white people can fight with white people. Only black people can fight with black people. Only green people can fight with green people? Wow. You're one racist bastard.

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Originally posted by ladysycamore
Say what? Who cares about HOW they killed off the Natives. The fact that they did and WHY they fought them and tried to kill them off was wrong.

The Trail Of Tears ring a bell?
Claims not disputed. I never said whitey was friendly. I said before whitey, the NA were slaughtering eachother. But that was OK, because it was just infighting. Shit.

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Originally posted by ladysycamore
It wasn't all about just "fighting". History tells us that Europeans had a habit of "fighting" the Native cultures of many lands that they invaded. Try "attempting to eliminate" by intimidation, slavery, internment camps, and the outright murder of native people all over the world.
And? I've never disputed this. I am making an issue with the fact that you seem to think it's fine for one land masses native inhabitants to kill eachother, but it's wrong for someone from another land mass to come fight too. This is what is so hard to swallow.

So in your words, it's fine for WWI and WWII Germany to invade all of Europe, because they share the same land mass and skin tone? That's ok? It's ok for WWI Italy to invade also, because they're also of "similar" skin tones, and share the same continent?

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Originally posted by ladysycamore
You may feel that my logic is "absurd", but history doesn't lie.
Bwhahahahah. Surely you jest? History doesn't lie? "History" is "truth" as told by the winner. You seldom hear the loser's side of the story. On a related vein, there are always two sides to a story, at least.

The fact of the matter is, if WWI or WWII were won by the "bad guys", then that would be the "right way" as viewed by current history. History would have been told differently if they'd won.

For that matter, there is still dispute on the WWII German U-Boat sinking. The Germans claim that they fired upon a vessel containing ammunitions. The US claims it was a passenger ship, and thus entered the war.

In fact they're both right. But the "right view" as your "truthful history" would tell you, is that it was an innocent passenger ship. It wasn't. It was a ship full of passengers and muntions. That's what America did. They packed civillian ships full of munitions and sent them over to Britian full of civillians.

But hey, what do I know, history doesn't lie, right?

Quzah.
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