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Australian scam?
My MIL Jan is a trusting soul but even she is getting nervous about this one. I assume the rip-off is in the shipping and the credit card. Can someone put this together for me so I can explain it clearly to her? Maybe the "shipper" shows up early to con his way into getting the package...
On Friday, June 4, 2010, at 11:11 AM, "Orson" wrote:
Jan,
Thanks for your response and your effort on my order.
I know it not your business to charge shipping fees to my shipper and I understand how you feel BUT I want you to help me out because have put my vote of confidence in you and you are the only person in the right place to do it for me now so that my shipper can ship all my goods including the one's am ordering from you at one's.
You will not have any problem with my shipper when they come for the pick-up at your place. I'll make sure I email you the details you will be needing to identify them when they come for the pick up.
Lastly, I know it will be easier to ship the prints yourself but I want my goods & the prints to be shipped together and my things would be much safer with my shipper. Try and understand and am ready to increase your compensation fees.
Await to read from you soon
Regards
Orson
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:02 AM, MIL wrote:
Orson,
This all sounds OK but I am totally unfamiliar with the process. My husband says there is a Western Union office nearby so I can do the transaction there. I don't know what a logistic agent is so of course I will need some kind of name and address. Do I give anything to the person who comes to pick up the package? I'm very confused.
Wouldn't it be simpler for me to take it to UPS? The shipping costs are similar and it's easy and fast and a clean transaction. I trust UPS to get the prints there safely. I will charge your credit card for the merchandise amount plus the shipping cost and it's done....easy and simple and will be less of a cost for you. I can get it off today and you will have it in 3 to 4 days.
Do you have any problem with this?
Jan
On Friday, June 4, 2010, at 01:23 AM, Orson wrote:
Jan,
Thanks for your swift response.
The total cost of my order is quite correct and OK by me. But I just got a response from my logistic agent that he cannot receive payment via credit or debit card from me at the moment. So I want you to help me charge another $380 to my logistic agent who is going to pick up my items from you.
The $380 that will be sent to my logistic agent is for the shipping of my order in your store plus some other items I have ordered from other stores around your locality which will be deduct from my credit card. Also, I'm compensating you with the sum of $150 for the transfer fee and for your efforts. Please note that I should have given the shipping agency my credit card for him to deduct the shipping funds but he told me that he doesn't have the facilities to charge or debit credit card, so that's why I bring my vote of confidence in you and I don't want you to betray the vote of confidence I put in you. So I want you to transfer the funds to him after you have make the charges and the money charged from my credit card is in your account, then you can now make the transfer to my logistic agent via western union. I will have love to do this myself but there no western union here around me. So the charges you'll make on my credit card will be:
Order fee: ($507)
Agent fee with shipping fare: ($380)
Transfer fee plus your compensation: ($150)
Total: ($1,037.00)
Note that my credit card will be charged for the amounts above. Please do get back to me if you are in the office right now so that I can forward my credit card details to you, then you can charge full amount and transfer the agent funds to him via western union but make sure you email me after charging my card details so that I can give you my agent details to send the money to.
Hope to read from you as soon as possible.
Warmly Regards
Orson
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:22 PM, MIL wrote:
Hi,
That sounds good. The total for the framed prints is $507.00.
My address is:
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The package is ready now and can be picked up at any time. I don't have a store front. I have a studio in my home and sell from there. If they call first I will make sure to be home when they come to pick it up.
I want to come too. Have you lived in Australia all your life?
Jan
On Thursday, June 3, 2010, at 04:06 PM, Orson wrote:
Jan,
Thanks for your effort on my order.
I want you calculate the total cost of my order ONLY and don't worry about the shipping because I just got a response from my personal logistic agent in US that will come for the pick up of the items at your address and it will only take 2-3days Express Shipping to my shipping address and I've inform them about this and they told me the best way to come for the pick up in your store is for you to email me with your store address and the time the items will be ready for pick up with your convenience time & date.
So please kindly get back to me with this details for pick up, so that I can give you my credit card details to charge the payment now.
Thanks for working out my budget with me.
Warmly Regards
Orson
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM,MIL wrote:
Hi,
I just returned from UPS and the US Postal Service. There is quite a big difference between the two quotes:
UPS $327.82 and it will take 3 to 4 days, includes insurance
USPS $100.40 includes insurance coverage for $107.33
That will take 5 to 7 business days.
Both methods require a customs declaration be filled out. I haven't looked at it yet but will email you if I have any questions.
The package weighs 14lb12oz
The pieces are pretty well protected with bubble wrap. Shall we go with USPS even though I haven't had the best experience with them compared to UPS?
The total cost for the 7 framed prints is $507.00 plus the cost of shipping.
I await your answer.
Jan
On Thursday, June 3, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Orson wrote:
Jan,
Sounds good. Just email me as soon as you get the shipping cost, so that I can email you all everything you need for the shipping.
Await to read from you soon
Regards
Orson
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:25 AM, MIL wrote:
Orson,
I'll get this order put together today and get it to UPS for the shipping charges. Before we send it along may I remind you they will need your phone number before they will ship.
I'll get back to you later.
Jan
On Thursday, June 3, 2010, at 03:39 AM, Orson wrote:
Jan,
Thanks for your effort on my order.
Go ahead and choose from the frame prints you have in stock.
My wife owns a big restaurant and some of the prints would be hanged there and some in would be hanged in our new house.
Await the total cost from you soon.
Regards
Orson
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:36 AM, MIL wrote:
Orson,
I can get to this right away if I can choose from the framed prints I have in stock. If you want specific frame colors it will take a little longer. The frames will be either satin silver, satin gold, satin black or hunter green on the frog.
UPS also needs a phone number. I have a long standing relationship with UPS and trust that they will get the items to you safely.
When I get your go ahead I will carefully package the prints and take the box to UPS for an estimate. I'll email the total amount to you and won't ship it until you say to. I'll also ask them for an estimated date of arrival.
Tell me about yourself. I like to know where my prints will be living.
Jan
On Wednesday, June 2, 2010, at 01:12 AM, Orson wrote:
Jan,
Thank for your swift response. I would like to proceed with my order via email and here are the items needed below:
<prints deleted>
I will like you to get back to me with the total cost plus shipping cost and here is my shipping address for you to calculate the shipping cost via UPS, Fedex or DHL or any other alternative shipping company.
Please kindly get back to me if this items is in stock because I do not want any delay on this.
Shipping Address:
<deleted>
Await to read from you soon.
Warmly Regards
Orson
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:43 PM, MIL wrote:
I asked at the UPS store today about shipping to Australia. She said she would need the wt. and dimensions of the package, it's destination and a phone number before she could give an estimate for the shipping cost. At that point you can decide if the cost of shipping is an amount you would be willing to add to your invoice. You ARE pretty far away, about as far as you can be from here.
How do you know about my work?
Let me know if you'd like to proceed and which prints you might be interested in.
Thanks for the inquiry. Hoping to hear from you soon. Maybe I'll come and deliver them myself. I've always wanted to go to Australia....don't take me seriously as it's not possible.
Jan
On Tuesday, June 1, 2010, at 05:03 AM, Orson wrote:
Hi,
I am Orson ______ and I'll like to order some items from your store but before we proceed I'll like to ask the following questions.
Do you ship to Australia?
Do you do Mail Order?
Do you accept credit card as for Payment?
I await your urgent response so we can proceed.
Orson
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