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Old 03-12-2001, 08:09 PM   #30
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Re: When is it enough?

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Originally posted by alphageek31337
...When should you be allowed to expect privacy due to simple human decency. You can find a way to find anything out from someone if you want to under these assumptions; simply find an angle they haven't covered. Hell, even our trash is public domain, as old-school dumpster diving crackers and carders could attest. At some point, the law should cover our privacy just because human beings need and deserve it. You should not have to go to extreme measures (custom wiring, extra insulation, etc) just to keep these jack-booted, gestapo thugs (or, for that matter, your jack-booted, gestapo neighbors) out of your damn business.
The above question was previously answered correctly. However if did not understand the original concept, then first reread those posts. For example, Russotto talks about millimeter microwave transmissions which are already defined in that previous post - which must ignore my previous post to be relevant.

If you still don't understand, current concepts in privacy laws make illegal that millimeter microwave or X-rays. If you transmit standard electromagnetic waves (light from your clothes, body heat, portable phone conversations, etc), then those transmission are open for everyone to receive. However if another transmits X-rays to violate your privacy, then that was illegal. Where is this sudden worry about privacy coming from? First understand the orignal post before jumping to this emotional fear.

Again the concepts are misrepresented. You don't need exotic insulation to protect IR transmission. Only the paranoid say otherwise. You don't even need plywood. Tar paper is sufficient for IR privacy. Privacy from binoculars - is called curtains. Get back into reality people. Those jack-booted thugs are in the minds of the mentally unstable. Existing privacy laws have been quite consistent - although may require courts to upgrade what Congress has failed to define.

You have no expectation of privacy unless you create that privacy. We overbuild to protect privacy everywhere. However if a man creates so much heat that even those trival, inexpensive IR detector receive it; and if he does not even insulate the attic, then everyone should know that he has a jungle for an attic. It takes no genius to see which house has no frost or snow every morning on the roof.

Furthermore, the original premise on which this worry is created is rediculous. The real issue is the theme of the movie Traffik. The real issue is not privacy. We have privacy concepts that are sufficient in our laws - it is just being misrepresented here with mythical microwave people detectors that don't transmit microwaves. The problem of a heated attic is the nonsense WE have with drugs - as exemplified by the movie Traffik.

It is not an issue of privacy. It is an issue of a rediculous War on Drugs. If you ever thought, after VietNam, that such as war would succeed, then you have a serious problem with reality. Traffik is what Federal Agents in the Drug wars were telling us in the 1980s. It takes a few decades for our brains to hear what our ears have heard from those who do the work. Still today, many don't understand the reality in Traffik.
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