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All you need is a lot less scattered light at ground level about you, and secondarily a few thousand feet of altitude. I've seen some nice sky from shipboard, nights. But a mile or two above sea level really helps too.
We were socked in at Hueneme; ten tenths. They did better at Mt. Pinos, a popular star-party site for the area.
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