[jaguar]

I haven't personally seen anyone deny the medi ahas anythign to do with it, at the tsame time i've never seen anyone but religious concervative nutter types argue its primarily the media.

So your point, paraphrased jsut a tiny bit is that a powerful targeted media and popular arts world can set of weak/damamged minds, sure, does that mean we ban everyone from these things? I live in a country wiht net-censorship laws that are tighter than any other medium (if the application of the laws themselves is so scant as to make them pointless), a country that banned Grant Theft Auto 2/3, and it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference. I mean looking at all the stuff that was thrown up after colombine i shoudl be thrown in a cell right now for the safty of all, i'm at jsut the right age, play violent computer games, liten to bands like Linkin Park (whcih was specifically named after one of the shootings), the lsit goes on yet somehow i have absolutely now plans no blow up my school.

I think its more about the envirometn the child happens to be in outside that extermal stimuli that matters, sure it probably won't do a 6yearold much good ot watch pulp fiction and play REturn to Castle Wolfenstien but that will not make any mentally stable person want to kill people. Having been "diagnosed"("we thing you may be suffering depression" wheee no shit sherlock) as clinicaly depressed before I think the best thing they could do is put some real money into in-school social services etc, stop people slipping though the cracks.

8 posts in and offtopic already =)

Nice post btw, loved the use of language.