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Old 03-17-2004, 04:01 PM   #26
Radar
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So Radar, everybody is a stupid ass and you are the only one who understands the constitution and knows how it must be read?
No, everybody isn't a stupid ass and I'm not the only one who understands the Constitution. It means exactly what it says; no more; no less and it doesn't require interpretation because it's not vague or ambiguous in any way. It's not written in a foreign language or coded. It doesn't need to be deciphered. There are hundreds of thousands of us, perhaps millions who accurately understand the Constitution without trying to "interpret" it.

The problem is government ignores the Constitution, oversteps their limited authority, and attacks our civil rights and the "regular joe" out there who was educated in government schools isn't taught that he is the master and government is the servant, isn't taught that the rights of an individual supercede the desires of millions, isn't told that rights don't come from government, etc. Average Joe is misled and confused and believes as long as he has microwave meals and television, he is free.

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If I'm not wrong a president only can send troops to a foreign country for about 90 days (or something like that) and after that the congress has to aprove it?
That's what the war powers act says, but as we've already established, that is an unconstitutional and illegal document. The president has absolutely no legitimate war making powers and can't send a single troop into a foreign country to fight for even 1 day without a declaration of war, which can only be made by Congress. Congress does not have the ability to send troops to foreign countries to fight either unless war is declared. And Congress doesn't have the legal authority to declare war unless America itself is in eminent danger.

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And the constitution is "only" a piece of paper of a few hundred years age.
Correct. The Constitution is a piece of paper and can't defend itself. It can't give us freedom. We must earn our freedom by upholding and defending the Constitution and demanding government abide by the limitations on their powers within the Constitution. It is the foundation of our entire country and without government abiding by it, we have no freedom at all.

And as far as it being old, it's fairly young in terms of how old most countries are. The principles behind the Constitution (limited governmental authority granted by the consent of the governed, armed population to defend against tyranny, military non-interventionism, etc) are timeless and will be fresh for as long as there are people in the world.

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And if "defending Amercia" means attack a dictator, so shall it be!
Defending anything means you don't attack without provocation. In other words you don't attack unless attacked or WE DON'T START WARS, WE FINISH THEM.

smoothmoniker: Case law is irrelevant. The Constitution is the highest law in the land. It's higher than all the courts including the supreme court. And a case doesn't have to be heard for a law to be unconstitutional.

The courts refuse to hear cases on the subject because they work for the government and it is in their interest to agree with government. They are on a short leash....their paychecks. I can cite dozens of unconstitutional court cases, but those don't change the Constitution.

We might as well have no law at all if the courts are going to perpetually use one unconstitutional decision as a precedent for another until our country implodes.

And what I said isn't a matter of opinion, it is a fact. The courts do have a mandate to hear these cases but are derelict in their duties and when they do hear a case, they often side with government because the Supreme Court has decided they may rule against the Constitution when it is in the "interest" of government even though they hold no legal authority to do so.
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