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Old 10-16-2013, 11:03 PM   #194
Adak
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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey View Post
And it's over (for a few months). With 87 Republicans voting aye.

Would have been nice if they'd done it a couple of weeks ago.
What did the Republicans / Conservatives get out of this whole shut down?

Pro's:
1) They mobilized their base - they hadn't done that in a long time.

2) They let Obama show himself as the scumbag he is.

Con's:

1) They lacked a coherent strategy. This is a government, at some point you have to reach a compromise with the other party.

They had no way of forcing a compromise. Naturally, Obama and Reid will not easily compromise.

2) They got blamed for most of the problems of the shut down, imo. Obama was an ass-hole about the War Memorials and Cemeteries, but overall, the Conservatives took most of the blame for it.

3) Any hint of working together, party to party, evaporated immediately.

Overall, it was an unwise move by the Conservatives. You don't start walking until you have decided where you're going, and how you're going to get there.

The whole exercise reminded me of the WWII FIRST amphibious landing in the north of France, at Dieppe.

It was a complete disaster.
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A total of 3,623 of the 6,086 men (almost 60%) who made it ashore were either killed, wounded, or captured.[4] The Royal Air Force failed to lure the Luftwaffe into open battle, and lost 96 aircraft (at least 32 to flak or accidents), compared to 48 lost by the Luftwaffe.[5] The Royal Navy lost 33 landing craft and one destroyer.
OK, it wasn't THAT bad, but it certainly wasn't a well thought out political move.
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