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Old 09-28-2015, 03:09 PM   #170
DanaC
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Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
What, everything I said?
No, sorry hehe. I was flyby posting and should have been clearer:

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Islam, as it is practiced by a huge majority of its adherents although not all, is not compatible with the US Constitution.

This is not to say that one couldn't locate moderate practitioners who would agree to the standards of the Constitution. Of course one could. And those practitioners would be considered apostate in a huge majority of the Islamic world.
Very similar argument against catholics in a lot of the protestant European nations- effectively the argument was that their first loyalty was to the church, and that papal authority sat higher in the catholic mind than the highest authority of the land. Prior to that it was wrapped up with absolutism of catholic monarchs, but in the 19th century it was much more about acceptance of the authority of the nation and questions of loyalty to nation versus loyalty and assumptions of obedience to an external power. Along with that came assumptions that catholic beliefs were backward and incompatible with 'modern' living. Also that the catholic church, its clergy, its schools and its ministries represented in effect, the enemy withn.

The German kulturkampf was the most extreme (I think) and systematic approach to it during that era.


[eta] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf
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