April 26, 2009: Seehorse

xoxoxoBruce · 04-26-2009, 01:21 AM

Tabitha Darling is not blind, but she is legally blind, which means Federal Law allows her ride her "service animal" into Target.

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"I do think there should be an allowance for comfort and therapy animals, simply because who are we to judge when somebody needs something?" Darling asked.

Carolyn Finefrock is blind, uses a dog to get through life, and objects to the expansion of the "service animal" list.

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Finefrock is concerned that an expanding list of service animals — from snakes to ferrets — are used by people who may not really need them. "Are they disabled enough to have the right? Are they disabled at all? Are they faking?" she asked.

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"It is a very touchy situation," said Charlotte Steward, an advocate for the rights of the disabled. She is opposed to any changes. "If you need that to feel comfortable or secure in yourself, or to deal with your disability, why shouldn't you be able to?" "It's just like using a walker or a cane, in my opinion, to get around in the community," Steward said.

Hmmm, riding your horse inside Target is the same as using a walker/cane?
As far as I know, walkers don't shit, bite, kick or step on people.

Maybe because I grew up with the accepted notion of seeing eye dogs for the blind, but that doesn't bother me at all. And therapy animals visiting nursing homes/hospitals, I have no problem with, great idea.
But I also grew up with horses and don't think they belong in stores.

For me the whole, "comfort and therapy" critters in the stores and malls is pushing it. Does that mean I can take my rattlesnake to the store because it makes me more confident?

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JuancoRocks · 04-26-2009, 02:08 AM

"Fresh muffins on aisle 12" takes on a whole new meaning.

hipshot · 04-26-2009, 02:15 AM

They are on their way to the cough drop aisle because....

(drumroll)

he's a little horse!!!!

(I'm killin' myself here!)

corydodt · 04-26-2009, 02:52 AM

What's not clear from the article is how well the horse is actually trained. If it's trained as well as a seeing-eye dog, then it doesn't bite, shit, kick or step on people either. And if it doesn't, then that horse is totally fine in my book. In fact, in many ways it is a better solution than the dog, because the horse offers physical protection from harm - by being large, and by being faster than an attacker.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-26-2009, 03:04 AM

Protection shouldn't be an issue inside the store.
That Target store is in Texas but I've never seen any store in the northeast with aisles that wide. Up here you can screw things up with one shopping cart.

Cyber Wolf · 04-26-2009, 05:37 AM

Never heard of a horse being trained not to drop a load, solid or liquid, where- and whenever it feels the need. But this should take care of that issue. No need to stoop or scoop. Doesn't appear she's got one on that horse though...

ZenGum · 04-27-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by corydodt

If it's trained as well as a seeing-eye dog, then it doesn't bite, shit, kick or step on people either. .

On that rationale, we'd be banning toddlers, too. Sounds good to me!

I'm not keen on the comfort animal idea. There are some people phobic of various animals, including horses. One person's comfort animal is another person's debilitating nightmare.

Gettit? nightmare? hehehee

SPUCK · 04-26-2009, 05:48 AM

Tabitha Darling = Dipwad

Aliantha · 04-26-2009, 05:58 AM

Yeah...I don't think horses belong in stores.

Griff · 04-26-2009, 07:23 AM

Bonifacio · 04-26-2009, 09:44 AM

Actually, they've been training miniature horses as service animals for quite a while now. They can do a lot for folks with disabilities.

http://www.guidehorse.org/

(Be sure to read the part about their shoes!)

The biggest advantage to them over a dog is that they live a lot longer. Training a licensed service animal is a big investment of time and money. So service training agency can offer a lot more with a trained horse.

But this seems - well - a little over the top...

capnhowdy · 04-26-2009, 10:16 AM

Like most everything else in America, a great idea goes to shit because everybody wants to jump the bandwagon. A line has to be drawn somewhere.
"If he can have a dog in a store, why can't I have a pony?"
"If he can take his pony in the store, why can't I take my horse?"
"If he can take his horse, why can't I take a bull?"

Who will have the right of way, the horses or the lazy, fat motherfuckers on those goddam scooters?

How do you define handicapped? Maybe stupidity is an illness.

Razzmatazz13 · 04-26-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

Like most everything else in America, a great idea goes to shit because everybody wants to jump the bandwagon. A line has to be drawn somewhere.
"If he can have a dog in a store, why can't I have a pony?"
"If he can take his pony in the store, why can't I take my horse?"
"If he can take his horse, why can't I take a bull?"

Who will have the right of way, the horses or the lazy, fat motherfuckers on those goddam scooters?

"WAIT! What do you mean I can't just drive my car through the aisles? I NEED TO PICK OUT MY NEW SWIMSUIT, but walking is for losers. Heh, look at you, you walking loser you."

Elspode · 04-26-2009, 03:57 PM

I am, of course, all for anything that helps the disabled live a more normal life. However, I will say that *anything* that is subject to interpretation in any way will inevitably be taken to the maximum extreme every time.

Pie · 04-26-2009, 11:01 AM

It is. Just not a terminal one.

04-26-2009, 02:08 AM	#2
JuancoRocks Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Paradise Valley, Arizona Posts: 437	Seehorse "Fresh muffins on aisle 12" takes on a whole new meaning. __________________ "That's just like your opinion man"

04-26-2009, 02:15 AM	#3
hipshot Enlarged to show texture Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 80	They are on their way to the cough drop aisle because.... (drumroll) he's a little horse!!!! (I'm killin' myself here!) __________________ "When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car."

04-26-2009, 03:04 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Protection shouldn't be an issue inside the store. That Target store is in Texas but I've never seen any store in the northeast with aisles that wide. Up here you can screw things up with one shopping cart. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-26-2009, 05:37 AM	#6
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	Never heard of a horse being trained not to drop a load, solid or liquid, where- and whenever it feels the need. But this should take care of that issue. No need to stoop or scoop. Doesn't appear she's got one on that horse though... __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

04-26-2009, 05:58 AM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Yeah...I don't think horses belong in stores. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

04-26-2009, 02:52 AM	#4
corydodt Writer of Writings Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 14	What's not clear from the article is how well the horse is actually trained. If it's trained as well as a seeing-eye dog, then it doesn't bite, shit, kick or step on people either. And if it doesn't, then that horse is totally fine in my book. In fact, in many ways it is a better solution than the dog, because the horse offers physical protection from harm - by being large, and by being faster than an attacker.

04-26-2009, 05:48 AM	#8
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	Tabitha Darling = Dipwad

04-26-2009, 07:23 AM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	__________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-26-2009, 09:44 AM	#11
Bonifacio Person Who Has Posted Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2	Assistance/Service horse? Actually, they've been training miniature horses as service animals for quite a while now. They can do a lot for folks with disabilities. http://www.guidehorse.org/ (Be sure to read the part about their shoes!) The biggest advantage to them over a dog is that they live a lot longer. Training a licensed service animal is a big investment of time and money. So service training agency can offer a lot more with a trained horse. But this seems - well - a little over the top...

04-26-2009, 10:16 AM	#12
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Like most everything else in America, a great idea goes to shit because everybody wants to jump the bandwagon. A line has to be drawn somewhere. "If he can have a dog in a store, why can't I have a pony?" "If he can take his pony in the store, why can't I take my horse?" "If he can take his horse, why can't I take a bull?" Who will have the right of way, the horses or the lazy, fat motherfuckers on those goddam scooters? How do you define handicapped? Maybe stupidity is an illness. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

04-26-2009, 03:57 PM	#14
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I am, of course, all for anything that helps the disabled live a more normal life. However, I will say that anything that is subject to interpretation in any way will inevitably be taken to the maximum extreme every time. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

04-26-2009, 11:01 AM	#15
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	It is. Just not a terminal one. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

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