Interesting graphs and charts department - Page 120

Undertoad · 05-22-2018, 03:28 PM

~~The opposite~~ (gonna learn to read digr) Almost: during the month of April, the eastern US and Canuckia was way cooler than the average at the same time of the year as determined between 1951-1980.

'member when we had snow last month, that was that happening

Gravdigr · 05-22-2018, 04:33 PM

How does the "400 months in a row" work into that?

Is it "400 months in a row", or is it April?

Or, is it 400 Aprils in a row?

Gravdigr · 05-22-2018, 04:35 PM

And what does the temperature of my gis have to do with anything?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-22-2018, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

~~The opposite~~ (gonna learn to read digr) Almost: during the month of April, the eastern US and Canuckia was way cooler than the average at the same time of the year as determined between 1951-1980.

'member when we had snow last month, that was that happening

That's weather, not climate.

Gravdigr · 05-22-2018, 04:37 PM

Fuck weather vs climate...

What does the goddamned chart indicate?

Gravdigr · 05-22-2018, 04:37 PM

Fiukkit, Im too pissed to learn anything rfn.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-22-2018, 04:38 PM

The climate is changing to warmer and that's not good.

Clodfobble · 05-22-2018, 05:06 PM

The "400 months" is that this is the 400th month in a row that overall world temperatures have been higher than average.

Undertoad · 05-22-2018, 06:58 PM

But IMO that's a silly way to look at the data, since the number would be higher than the 1951-1980 average for 400 months if it rose a teeny bit 400 months ago, and then stayed constant.

Also, the 1951-80 data is weaker and is missing large parts of the earth. And I believe it's land-only? I think, I dunno.

The best way to look at it, again IMO, is to consider only the post-1980 temperatures, as they are much more accurate than anything pre-1980, because that is when the satellites took over the job.

The best way to watch those temperatures is by following the UAH6.0 lower troposphere reported temps, a graph of which currently looks like this (an interesting graph, so it's pertinent to the thread):

That way you are only looking at satellite numbers and comparing them to satellite numbers. The satellites do make mistakes (they drift), and some of this data has been corrected for, but it's considered pretty accurate.

The "anomaly" here, the number being graphed, is the temp versus the 1980 average. So, in April 2018, the ~~planet~~ lower troposphere of the planet was considered to be 0.21 degrees C hotter than it was in 1980.

Happy Monkey · 05-22-2018, 08:03 PM

It looks like 1980 was a high point of a cycle, and the graph ends on a low point. So the low point of a roughly +/- 0.2 degree cycle now is 0.2 degrees over the high point of the cycle 40 years ago. It would be easier to see what's happening if there were a trendline plotted through the datapoints.

edit accuracy: high point of probably 1981 was closer to 0.1 than 0; current low point is 0.1 degrees higher than that.

Gravdigr · 05-23-2018, 03:22 PM

What does the blue over eastern North America indicate?

glatt · 05-23-2018, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

What does the blue over eastern North America indicate?

Democrats. See, it's a political map. Democrats are blue and Republicans are red.

Gravdigr · 05-23-2018, 03:31 PM

Well thar's m'prollum right thar!

Undertoad · 05-23-2018, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

What does the blue over eastern North America indicate?

Weather.

Pete Zicato · 05-24-2018, 01:35 PM

The best chart on this topic:

https://xkcd.com/1732/

05-22-2018, 04:33 PM	#1787
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05-22-2018, 04:35 PM	#1788
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05-22-2018, 04:37 PM	#1790
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Fuck weather vs climate... What does the goddamned chart indicate? __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-22-2018, 04:37 PM	#1791
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Fiukkit, Im too pissed to learn anything rfn. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-22-2018, 04:38 PM	#1792
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05-22-2018, 03:28 PM	#1786
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	~~The opposite~~ (gonna learn to read digr) Almost: during the month of April, the eastern US and Canuckia was way cooler than the average at the same time of the year as determined between 1951-1980. 'member when we had snow last month, that was that happening

05-22-2018, 05:06 PM	#1793
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	The "400 months" is that this is the 400th month in a row that overall world temperatures have been higher than average. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

05-22-2018, 06:58 PM	#1794
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	But IMO that's a silly way to look at the data, since the number would be higher than the 1951-1980 average for 400 months if it rose a teeny bit 400 months ago, and then stayed constant. Also, the 1951-80 data is weaker and is missing large parts of the earth. And I believe it's land-only? I think, I dunno. The best way to look at it, again IMO, is to consider only the post-1980 temperatures, as they are much more accurate than anything pre-1980, because that is when the satellites took over the job. The best way to watch those temperatures is by following the UAH6.0 lower troposphere reported temps, a graph of which currently looks like this (an interesting graph, so it's pertinent to the thread): That way you are only looking at satellite numbers and comparing them to satellite numbers. The satellites do make mistakes (they drift), and some of this data has been corrected for, but it's considered pretty accurate. The "anomaly" here, the number being graphed, is the temp versus the 1980 average. So, in April 2018, the ~~planet~~ lower troposphere of the planet was considered to be 0.21 degrees C hotter than it was in 1980.

05-22-2018, 08:03 PM	#1795
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	It looks like 1980 was a high point of a cycle, and the graph ends on a low point. So the low point of a roughly +/- 0.2 degree cycle now is 0.2 degrees over the high point of the cycle 40 years ago. It would be easier to see what's happening if there were a trendline plotted through the datapoints. edit accuracy: high point of probably 1981 was closer to 0.1 than 0; current low point is 0.1 degrees higher than that. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

05-23-2018, 03:22 PM	#1796
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	What does the blue over eastern North America indicate? __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-23-2018, 03:31 PM	#1798
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Well thar's m'prollum right thar! __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-24-2018, 01:35 PM	#1800
Pete Zicato Turns out my CRS is a symptom of TMB. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 2,916	The best chart on this topic: https://xkcd.com/1732/ __________________ Talk nerdy to me.

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