The absurdity of Donald Trump - Page 29

xoxoxoBruce · 11-22-2018, 10:17 PM

I've had the feeling, OK, he's gamed the system by making ridiculous claims and enough lies to make his nose grow to the moon.
He figured out how to divide and conquer, played that into huge personal gain.
He's pretty smart.

But I had the thought last night, what if he's not that smart, what if he's actually tweeting and saying what he really believes.
I'm afraid, very afraid.

Undertoad · 11-22-2018, 10:20 PM

It would look like how most Americans would look if we tweeted similarly.

Griff · 11-23-2018, 08:33 AM

We don't tweet though. We stop, we think, we test it out on the cellar, we realize we're being dumb, and then we throw it in the ash bin. He should have a group of area competent people to talk to... you know, like a cabinet.

sexobon · 11-23-2018, 09:07 AM

He's just a fly by the seat of your pants kind of guy and you can do some death defying stunts when you're wearing bespoke pants.

His cabinet is his fly girls.

Undertoad · 11-23-2018, 09:40 AM

Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it.

And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by.

The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?

xoxoxoBruce · 11-23-2018, 10:28 AM

Raw feed will usually come back to bite you in the ass. Constructive criticism or just criticism(attack)? In print it's sometimes not easy to tell the spirit in which it's given, no matter how carefully you chose your words.

sexobon · 11-23-2018, 10:49 AM

Some who give raw feed become successful, others fall by the wayside, the outcome depends on the perceived objective behind it.

Clodfobble · 11-23-2018, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it.

And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by.

The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?

Except his staff have admitted the "rawness" is often faked, tweets written by others on his account with the intent of being inflammatory--they even bragged about putting in intentional typos for authenticity's sake.

Undertoad · 11-23-2018, 11:27 AM

Then that's exactly the game theory Trump is working by, and being outraged is playing on his game field.

Next level: watch the media with that in mind. They have been trolled. They have lost.

sexobon · 11-23-2018, 11:47 AM

Some in the media became conceited and thought they could become activists hiding behind the journalism banner. They bastardized their 1st Amendment protections without being astute enough to realize the same could be done by counter-activists. They got what they bargained for including the collateral damage to their peer group which will have to do a better job of policing their own. If they don't, they'll fall by the wayside in public opinion.

henry quirk · 11-23-2018, 01:34 PM

The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass.

Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy.

Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.

DanaC · 11-23-2018, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry quirk

The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass.

Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy.

Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.

The American press is not mandated to lead the nation.

henry quirk · 11-23-2018, 03:36 PM

No, the press is mandated to 'report' (sumthn' it hasn't done in a coon's age).

xoxoxoBruce · 11-23-2018, 11:06 PM

C'mon Henry, Trump's a lying motherfucker, over and over and over again.

henry quirk · 11-23-2018, 11:25 PM

Of course he's a lyin' motherfucker,

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

I didn't hire him to be honest, I hired him to wreck shit.

Mebbe you like the status quo: bully for you.

Me: I want government pared down, leaned out, powered down, and brought under heel.

Trump ain't the end point; he just a goddamned waystation.

He's doin' exactly what I want him to do, so he can lie, cheat, steal, and whore around to his heart's content.

11-22-2018, 10:17 PM	#421
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I've had the feeling, OK, he's gamed the system by making ridiculous claims and enough lies to make his nose grow to the moon. He figured out how to divide and conquer, played that into huge personal gain. He's pretty smart. But I had the thought last night, what if he's not that smart, what if he's actually tweeting and saying what he really believes. I'm afraid, very afraid. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-23-2018, 08:33 AM	#423
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	We don't tweet though. We stop, we think, we test it out on the cellar, we realize we're being dumb, and then we throw it in the ash bin. He should have a group of area competent people to talk to... you know, like a cabinet. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-23-2018, 10:28 AM	#426
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Raw feed will usually come back to bite you in the ass. Constructive criticism or just criticism(attack)? In print it's sometimes not easy to tell the spirit in which it's given, no matter how carefully you chose your words. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-23-2018, 03:36 PM	#433
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"The American press is not mandated to lead the nation." No, the press is mandated to 'report' (sumthn' it hasn't done in a coon's age).

11-23-2018, 11:06 PM	#434
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	C'mon Henry, Trump's a lying motherfucker, over and over and over again. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-22-2018, 10:20 PM	#422
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It would look like how most Americans would look if we tweeted similarly.

11-23-2018, 09:07 AM	#424
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	He's just a fly by the seat of your pants kind of guy and you can do some death defying stunts when you're wearing bespoke pants. His cabinet is his fly girls.

11-23-2018, 09:40 AM	#425
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it. And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by. The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?

11-23-2018, 10:49 AM	#427
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Some who give raw feed become successful, others fall by the wayside, the outcome depends on the perceived objective behind it.

11-23-2018, 11:27 AM	#429
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Then that's exactly the game theory Trump is working by, and being outraged is playing on his game field. Next level: watch the media with that in mind. They have been trolled. They have lost.

11-23-2018, 11:47 AM	#430
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Some in the media became conceited and thought they could become activists hiding behind the journalism banner. They bastardized their 1st Amendment protections without being astute enough to realize the same could be done by counter-activists. They got what they bargained for including the collateral damage to their peer group which will have to do a better job of policing their own. If they don't, they'll fall by the wayside in public opinion.

11-23-2018, 01:34 PM	#431
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass. Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy. Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.

11-23-2018, 11:25 PM	#435
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	Of course he's a lyin' motherfucker, What the hell does that have to do with anything? I didn't hire him to be honest, I hired him to wreck shit. Mebbe you like the status quo: bully for you. Me: I want government pared down, leaned out, powered down, and brought under heel. Trump ain't the end point; he just a goddamned waystation. He's doin' exactly what I want him to do, so he can lie, cheat, steal, and whore around to his heart's content.

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