The tenth digit - Page 2

HungLikeJesus · 03-18-2008, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveDallas

What comes after þþ?

I'm speechless. Help me out here, what's 0.1? 0.01?

Why does the concept of zero bother you so much?

After þþ comes 111.

0.01 is still 0.01, and so on. We still need zero.

What, then, is 1.01? (think of 101/100 to get the correct answer)

Aliantha · 03-18-2008, 06:21 PM

You don't start counting at zero because zero represents nothing. You start from nothing, and the first thing you count is 1, then if you have another thing, you have 2 etc. Zero is more than just a number. It's a state of mind.

Start from nothing to move on to something.

HungLikeJesus · 03-18-2008, 06:24 PM

Very zen.

Clodfobble · 03-18-2008, 07:21 PM

HLJ, it looks like all you're really doing is trying to count in base 11. Just replace þ with A.

HungLikeJesus · 03-18-2008, 07:29 PM

I'm not changing bases, just representation of digits. If I was using base 11, than 11 would be 12 and we'd still have a 10. Wouldn't we?

lumberjim · 03-18-2008, 08:18 PM

nerds!

lumberjim · 03-18-2008, 08:22 PM

...UH.....

monster · 03-18-2008, 08:33 PM

you bastard! I lost my 10th digit on 9/11 at the WTC

binky · 03-18-2008, 08:53 PM

honestly HLJ I think you need a hobby

SteveDallas · 03-18-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

0.01 is still 0.01, and so on. We still need zero.

Bullshit. You've gone to positively pathological lengths to get rid of zero on the left side of the decimal. Let's see some consistency.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

What, then, is 1.01? (think of 101/100 to get the correct answer)

You just said .01 is .01, so 1 plus .01 is 1.01. (Unless you're going to define the addition operation differently than usual.)

Shawnee123 · 03-19-2008, 09:10 AM

First you try to get rid of Mondays, now you're booting the zero. What next, no oxygen?

SteveDallas · 03-19-2008, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

First you try to get rid of Mondays, now you're booting the zero. What next, no oxygen?

Well, the symbol is O, which look suspiciously like 0 . . . .

Shawnee123 · 03-19-2008, 10:47 AM

Good point.

HungLikeJesus · 03-19-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveDallas

Bullshit. You've gone to positively pathological lengths to get rid of zero on the left side of the decimal. Let's see some consistency.

You just said .01 is .01, so 1 plus .01 is 1.01. (Unless you're going to define the addition operation differently than usual.)

1.01 is 101/100. 101 becomes þ1, so 1.01 becomes 0.þ1

2.01 becomes 1.þ1, just as 201 becomes 1þ1

I'm not trying to get rid of zeros, they just drop out. I love zeros. But we could get rid of leading zeros by using exponential notation, if you like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky

honestly HLJ I think you need a hobby

Maybe implementing new decimal will be my hobby. This and the prime number thing. And getting rid of Mondays. And trying to make sense of tw.

Are any of these things possible? Probably not.

Clodfobble · 03-19-2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLJ

1.01 is 101/100. 101 becomes þ1, so 1.01 becomes 0.þ1

So what is .101 then?

03-18-2008, 06:21 PM	#17
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	You don't start counting at zero because zero represents nothing. You start from nothing, and the first thing you count is 1, then if you have another thing, you have 2 etc. Zero is more than just a number. It's a state of mind. Start from nothing to move on to something. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-18-2008, 06:24 PM	#18
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Very zen. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

03-18-2008, 07:29 PM	#20
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	I'm not changing bases, just representation of digits. If I was using base 11, than 11 would be 12 and we'd still have a 10. Wouldn't we? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

03-18-2008, 08:18 PM	#21
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	nerds! __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-18-2008, 08:22 PM	#22
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	...UH..... Attached Images __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-18-2008, 07:21 PM	#19
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	HLJ, it looks like all you're really doing is trying to count in base 11. Just replace þ with A.

03-18-2008, 08:33 PM	#23
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	you bastard! I lost my 10th digit on 9/11 at the WTC __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-18-2008, 08:53 PM	#24
binky all hollowed out Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ridgecrest, CA Posts: 982	honestly HLJ I think you need a hobby __________________ The meanest Mom EVER!!!!

03-19-2008, 09:10 AM	#26
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	First you try to get rid of Mondays, now you're booting the zero. What next, no oxygen? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-19-2008, 10:47 AM	#28
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Good point. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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