Isolated Tracks

Flint · 12-15-2008, 11:24 PM

What gems can you find?

I stumbled upon this testing out my new Bose desktop speakers. DO NOT TURN IT UP LOUD.
It is an isolated track, everything but the bass guitar is pulled completely out of the mix.

What can I say about this?
"Goddamnit baby you know I ain't lyin' to ya--I'm only gonna tell you one time--AAAAAAyea-ah!"

Undertoad · 12-16-2008, 09:12 AM

Gawd Entwhistle is glorious. I've never heard better playing on a song I hate. As somebody said on the comments, take out the rest of those guys and the song is actually pretty good.

There's a Baba O'Riley isolation track too and here we can all see how much the guy's talents were wasted on two-chord songs. We've played Baba before and I can't tell you how boring it is to play. I'm sure Entwhistle added all those fancy flourishes just so he wouldn't be bored.

Flint · 12-16-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I'm sure Entwhistle added all those fancy flourishes just so he wouldn't be bored.

I got the same impression; but what's amazing is that he does it in such a way as to not call attention to what he's doing. He's sneaking activity into places in the song where it won't be heard as an individual instrument. Much the same way that "ghosted" snare notes can build a groove while being practically inaudible, or the rich, even undertones of a ride cymbal can provide a "cushion" for the band to float on top of.

But more than that, as you've mentioned about Entwhistle before, he has to add "glue" to help stick the other instruments together. It's team playing.

dar512 · 12-16-2008, 12:40 PM

@Flint - Have you considered drumming in a jazz group -- and moving to Chicago?

glatt · 12-16-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Isolated Tracks
What gems can you find?

Cicero · 12-16-2008, 01:21 PM

I am trying to isolate sounds with "audacity". If someone knows how to do this let me know.

I really haven't had enough time to play with it, so if someone can give a quick and easy answer, that would be awesome!

glatt · 12-16-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero

I am trying to isolate sounds with "audacity". If someone knows how to do this let me know.

I really haven't had enough time to play with it, so if someone can give a quick and easy answer, that would be awesome!

It's been a few months since I used it, but I don't remember anything that would let you do that easily or with much success.

Cicero · 12-16-2008, 01:34 PM

Hmm....Well that's why I got it, so my search for freeware should continue.

It's working ok for now, but at some point I will want to isolate certain sounds...darn. I thought it was "the one" and I wasn't using it right.

Maybe new speakers at some point, are in order, and I will have more options.
Thnx glatt.

Clodfobble · 12-16-2008, 01:35 PM

If you're talking about two sounds that play on top of one another... That's really hard. If you have a copy of the *exact* sound that you want to get RID of, you can invert that waveform, line it up perfectly with the first audiofile, and the sounds will cancel each other out, in theory leaving you with the sound you want. But the realistic answer is, there's no way to do it even with the fanciest of plugins.

Cicero · 12-16-2008, 01:48 PM

Thanks. At least that inspired me to find something else I needed that I hadn't thought about.

Pie · 12-16-2008, 02:21 PM

I hate to sound like an absolute moron (and yet I do it so well!) -- what song is that?

glatt · 12-16-2008, 02:34 PM

The second one is Running With The Devil

Don't know what the first one is.

Pie · 12-16-2008, 02:39 PM

Thanks, Glatt -- I meant the first one! :p

glatt · 12-16-2008, 02:41 PM

Yeah, I know. But you looked lonely in the moron corner, so I thought I would join you.

Undertoad · 12-16-2008, 02:42 PM

Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who

12-15-2008, 11:24 PM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Isolated Tracks What gems can you find? I stumbled upon this testing out my new Bose desktop speakers. DO NOT TURN IT UP LOUD. It is an isolated track, everything but the bass guitar is pulled completely out of the mix. What can I say about this? "Goddamnit baby you know I ain't lyin' to ya--I'm only gonna tell you one time--AAAAAAyea-ah!" __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

12-16-2008, 12:40 PM	#4
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	@Flint - Have you considered drumming in a jazz group -- and moving to Chicago? __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

12-16-2008, 01:21 PM	#6
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	I am trying to isolate sounds with "audacity". If someone knows how to do this let me know. I really haven't had enough time to play with it, so if someone can give a quick and easy answer, that would be awesome! __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

12-16-2008, 01:34 PM	#8
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Hmm....Well that's why I got it, so my search for freeware should continue. It's working ok for now, but at some point I will want to isolate certain sounds...darn. I thought it was "the one" and I wasn't using it right. Maybe new speakers at some point, are in order, and I will have more options. Thnx glatt. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

12-16-2008, 01:35 PM	#9
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	If you're talking about two sounds that play on top of one another... That's really hard. If you have a copy of the exact sound that you want to get RID of, you can invert that waveform, line it up perfectly with the first audiofile, and the sounds will cancel each other out, in theory leaving you with the sound you want. But the realistic answer is, there's no way to do it even with the fanciest of plugins. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

12-16-2008, 09:12 AM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Gawd Entwhistle is glorious. I've never heard better playing on a song I hate. As somebody said on the comments, take out the rest of those guys and the song is actually pretty good. There's a Baba O'Riley isolation track too and here we can all see how much the guy's talents were wasted on two-chord songs. We've played Baba before and I can't tell you how boring it is to play. I'm sure Entwhistle added all those fancy flourishes just so he wouldn't be bored.

12-16-2008, 01:48 PM	#10
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Thanks. At least that inspired me to find something else I needed that I hadn't thought about. __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

12-16-2008, 02:21 PM	#11
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	I hate to sound like an absolute moron (and yet I do it so well!) -- what song is that? __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

12-16-2008, 02:34 PM	#12
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	The second one is Running With The Devil Don't know what the first one is.

12-16-2008, 02:39 PM	#13
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Thanks, Glatt -- I meant the first one! :p __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

12-16-2008, 02:41 PM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Yeah, I know. But you looked lonely in the moron corner, so I thought I would join you.

12-16-2008, 02:42 PM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who

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