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Undertoad How to get the sniper 10-13-2002, 06:58 PM

wolf Re: How to get the sniper 10-13-2002, 07:15 PM

elSicomoro Re: Re: How to get the sniper 10-13-2002, 09:31 PM

Cam The guy with the gun 10-13-2002, 09:46 PM

elSicomoro Stoopid me...I wasn't even... 10-13-2002, 10:17 PM

jaguar Ok so the theroy is if he was... 10-14-2002, 04:03 AM

Guest Re: Re: How to get the sniper 10-14-2002, 08:58 AM

Cam Kind of makes you understand... 10-14-2002, 09:35 AM

Guest Imagine if people were... 10-14-2002, 10:01 AM

Cam ingenious, now why didn't our... 10-14-2002, 10:37 AM

hermit22 Because the second most... 10-14-2002, 11:08 AM

Beestie Boy I live in VA and work in DC... 10-14-2002, 12:04 PM

Guest It's funny that Tony started... 10-14-2002, 12:18 PM

BrianR well, I live right in that... 10-14-2002, 12:32 PM

Cam Ahh you all should move to... 10-14-2002, 03:00 PM

russotto He's quite possibly shooting... 10-14-2002, 03:22 PM

Undertoad Naw, but if you sprint in his... 10-14-2002, 03:31 PM

jaguar Either that or he'll fire a... 10-14-2002, 04:22 PM

Guest No. No one's ever argued that... 10-14-2002, 04:55 PM

warch There are plenty of trained,... 10-14-2002, 05:37 PM

Cam Dave did mention the fact... 10-14-2002, 06:25 PM

MaggieL Please....anyone who drives... 10-14-2002, 08:12 PM

Nic Name Where do people get the idea... 10-14-2002, 08:43 PM

spinningfetus Imagine people like myself... 10-14-2002, 09:35 PM

jaguar So your idea has changed from... 10-15-2002, 01:26 AM

Guest I fail to see how it could be... 10-15-2002, 09:36 AM

Xugumad Although I don't want to... 10-15-2002, 10:49 AM

hermit22 I really couldn't have said... 10-15-2002, 12:06 PM

Guest I only see out of one eye... 10-15-2002, 12:14 PM

Xugumad Sure. But how were you... 10-15-2002, 12:31 PM

russotto Yep, they've been using that... 10-15-2002, 12:40 PM

russotto That's great. Impose a law. ... 10-15-2002, 12:41 PM

Xugumad Please read what I wrote, and... 10-15-2002, 01:02 PM

MaggieL Laws preventing or... 10-15-2002, 02:54 PM

Cam Yes guns are simple to... 10-15-2002, 03:57 PM

jaguar Stop ranting dave, it jsut... 10-15-2002, 04:26 PM

hermit22 I'd have to second Cam's... 10-15-2002, 05:19 PM

russotto [QUOTE]Originally posted by... 10-16-2002, 01:25 PM

wolf What the heck do you mean you... 10-16-2002, 09:47 PM

wolf Actually, gun control is the... 10-16-2002, 09:51 PM

Guest Chicago's got highest murder... 10-16-2002, 10:10 PM

wolf I know, I know. Correlation... 10-17-2002, 12:00 AM

Guest 'sallgood. I just toss out... 10-17-2002, 12:05 AM

BrianR Yes. Me. I live near... 10-17-2002, 09:40 AM

MaggieL ...from ... 10-17-2002, 03:38 PM

hermit22 [B] And that's my whole... 10-17-2002, 07:57 PM

Tobiasly Please cite these sources... 10-17-2002, 10:56 PM

hermit22 As soon as you cite the... 10-18-2002, 02:04 AM

Nothing But Net It's so simple why hasn't... 10-18-2002, 02:42 AM

Guest Actually, my buddy Kenny says... 10-18-2002, 06:01 AM

Urbane Guerrilla PA/NMTA... 10-18-2002, 06:22 AM

russotto When everyone gives up their... 10-18-2002, 01:19 PM

russotto Re: PA/NMTA... 10-18-2002, 01:21 PM

That Guy Re: Re: PA/NMTA... 10-18-2002, 01:27 PM

Guest I dunno. I used to shoot my... 10-18-2002, 01:52 PM

Tobiasly You said that there are... 10-18-2002, 01:54 PM

That Guy If this guy's going so far as... 10-18-2002, 03:52 PM

hermit22 And now you see the fallacy... 10-18-2002, 04:45 PM

Urbane Guerrilla NRA Fallacy? News to people... 10-19-2002, 03:44 AM

hermit22 The problem with all of that... 10-19-2002, 01:08 PM

elSicomoro Because some folks let... 10-19-2002, 10:53 PM

hermit22 And what logic is that? the... 10-19-2002, 11:45 PM

elSicomoro The logic is quite simple... 10-20-2002, 01:00 AM

BrianR How to get the sniper 10-20-2002, 12:03 PM

MaggieL Then you'd better find... 10-20-2002, 02:00 PM

Chefranden Quite true of course as far... 10-20-2002, 11:28 PM

Cam So, we get rid of guns, and... 10-20-2002, 11:59 PM

Nic Name I sense that is a facetious... 10-21-2002, 12:05 AM

Xugumad Not that I disagree with you... 10-21-2002, 12:11 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Since Americans can point... 10-21-2002, 04:25 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Hermit22's postulation of... 10-21-2002, 04:40 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Try your statistical... 10-21-2002, 04:59 AM

Nic Name ... or Virginia, to keep on... 10-21-2002, 07:17 AM

Undertoad The presence of guns in the... 10-21-2002, 07:29 AM

Nic Name The image that came to my... 10-21-2002, 07:51 AM

Undertoad Utopia is still not an option. 10-21-2002, 08:44 AM

warch What came to my mind was the... 10-21-2002, 10:48 AM

MaggieL It's been interesting to note... 10-21-2002, 12:00 PM

Chefranden Again, bows and knives are... 10-21-2002, 02:28 PM

russotto Which is standard sniper... 10-21-2002, 02:31 PM

russotto Stab wounds are actually... 10-21-2002, 02:33 PM

Cam Yes, they are less efficient,... 10-21-2002, 03:36 PM

Urbane Guerrilla Warch, it's a hard line to... 10-21-2002, 10:21 PM

Chefranden If what you say is true and... 10-21-2002, 11:28 PM

MaggieL Boy, it sure stopped being... 10-22-2002, 12:49 AM

Cam You do realize that... 10-22-2002, 01:04 AM

Griff This Reason ... 10-22-2002, 06:56 AM

Undertoad An awesome piece it is. 10-22-2002, 07:29 AM

Guest Ovbiosuly an NRA propogadna... 10-22-2002, 09:29 AM

Nic Name Dave is ovbiosuly giving us... 10-22-2002, 09:48 AM

MaggieL The article is a good summary... 10-22-2002, 09:48 AM

Griff :) 10-22-2002, 09:52 AM

Guest (Truth be told, I thought it... 10-22-2002, 10:13 AM

Xugumad From that article: ... 10-22-2002, 12:35 PM

MaggieL How stramge, especially since... 10-22-2002, 01:24 PM

Xugumad You choose to answer... 10-22-2002, 01:45 PM

Griff I assume that the nut hides... 10-22-2002, 01:46 PM

Guest Jag loves my prodding. 10-22-2002, 02:34 PM

Griff Shush, he's trying to study. 10-22-2002, 06:51 PM

MaggieL Well, since X doesn't want to... 10-22-2002, 11:13 PM

Undertoad Just curious, X, what do you... 10-22-2002, 11:27 PM

jaguar Indeed i do, grow the fuck up... 10-22-2002, 11:32 PM

Nic Name Capitalist Pig 10-23-2002, 12:09 AM

Griff The ban on non-lethals makes... 10-23-2002, 07:11 AM

MaggieL Gee, not to say "I told you... 10-23-2002, 10:23 AM

russotto ROTFL. You know, it's really... 10-23-2002, 10:31 AM

BrianR And I'd like to point out... 10-23-2002, 10:56 AM

Urbane Guerrilla "Propogadna" -- what... 10-23-2002, 11:42 AM

Guest Did you miss the joke? 10-23-2002, 11:53 AM

Urbane Guerrilla Injustice?? My God,... 10-23-2002, 12:39 PM

Urbane Guerrilla The Sixth Sense of humor 10-23-2002, 12:45 PM

Guest 'salright man. I just wanted... 10-23-2002, 12:51 PM

Guest I think what he meant was... 10-23-2002, 12:53 PM

Urbane Guerrilla Well, on general principles... 10-23-2002, 12:55 PM

Chefranden Curiosity compels me to... 10-23-2002, 02:34 PM

MaggieL Funny, I'd wondered if your... 10-23-2002, 04:12 PM

Chefranden :confused: Hmmmmm no, but I... 10-23-2002, 10:26 PM

Xugumad How about asking for... 10-23-2002, 10:37 PM

Cam He easily could have, he just... 10-23-2002, 11:35 PM

MaggieL Well, go back and read your... 10-24-2002, 01:01 AM

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Urbane Guerrilla I see your point, but I stand... 10-24-2002, 02:04 AM

Xugumad You quoted my post where I... 10-24-2002, 02:19 AM

Nothing But Net I wouldn't want to be one of... 10-24-2002, 03:36 AM

Griff from Reuters He said he... 10-24-2002, 06:12 AM

jaguar One of the pics i saw (Wired... 10-24-2002, 07:02 AM

Guest No, it didn't. 10-24-2002, 08:45 AM

MaggieL Well, fortunately, *this*... 10-24-2002, 09:25 AM

Cam I quoted your post where you... 10-24-2002, 09:41 AM

Guest I don't think there was much... 10-24-2002, 09:56 AM

Undertoad ...submitting to the US... 10-24-2002, 10:44 AM

Griff It is my position that... 10-24-2002, 11:04 AM

Cam I understand the theory about... 10-24-2002, 11:07 AM

Undertoad That's an awful lot of... 10-24-2002, 11:18 AM

Griff Gulf War 1 created more... 10-24-2002, 11:20 AM

Griff They just make the mistake of... 10-24-2002, 11:24 AM

Cam Last time I checked the whole... 10-24-2002, 11:35 AM

Griff True. Reminds me of Bush and... 10-24-2002, 11:39 AM

Undertoad Oh, you mean the operation... 10-24-2002, 11:40 AM

Griff Yes, at the request of... 10-24-2002, 12:11 PM

Undertoad It's damn near impossible to... 10-24-2002, 01:28 PM

Griff No, they don't prove my... 10-24-2002, 02:00 PM

Xugumad You seem to be finally coming... 10-24-2002, 02:46 PM

Undertoad I agree with all of that. ... 10-24-2002, 03:42 PM

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Nic Name Not the quote you were... 10-25-2002, 08:51 AM

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jaguar Call me paranoid but i... 10-25-2002, 06:28 PM

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Nic Name Sam Donaldson on cnn/wolf... 10-30-2002, 04:38 PM

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10-22-2002, 09:48 AM

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MaggieL

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Quote:

Originally posted by Griff
This Reason piece about the increasing crime rates in GB goes into the differing beliefs about ones right to self defense.

The article is a good summary of the larger work by the same author published earlier this year.

It throws a strong light onto the process of creeping coercive collectivism that gun prohibitionism is a significant part of. Coerceive collectivisim is also a component of "shame culture"....see the links out of the threads here on that topic.
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Man :"Awright. It's a fair cop, but society is to blame"
Detective Parson: "Right! We'll be charging them too."
---Monty Python "Dead Bishop" shetch
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