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Old 07-11-2014, 04:57 PM   #1621
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I tend to switch off when actors and the like start with the polemics. Regardless of whether I agree with them.

I don't find myself not watching/liking them for it as actors though. I'm happy to separate the actor from their views when they star in a movie. Otherwise I'd never watch anything with Tom Cruise or Kelsey Grammar in it.
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:06 PM   #1622
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I probably wouldn't listen to 80% of the music that I do if I based my listening on whether I actually liked the artists as people.
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:11 PM   #1623
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So - it's ok for an actor to tell everybody what they should think about guns as long as they're pro-guns, but not if they're anti?
Where did I say that? Where did anyone say that? Just because a statement is made, that does not mean that the counter-point to that statement is automatically true.

Heh...I don't like anybody telling me how to think, about anything.

If I like something, it's because I like it, not because someone told me to. Likewise, if I don't like something, it's a decision I've made, no one made that decision for me. In general, I'm not influenced a great deal by external forces.

I am a critically endangered species.
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:14 PM   #1624
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...I watched K-19 the other night and it was pretty fecal.

Yeah, I love submarine movies, but, that one wasn't too hot.
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:49 PM   #1625
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Where did I say that? Where did anyone say that? Just because a statement is made, that does not mean that the counter-point to that statement is automatically true.

Heh...I don't like anybody telling me how to think, about anything.

If I like something, it's because I like it, not because someone told me to. Likewise, if I don't like something, it's a decision I've made, no one made that decision for me. In general, I'm not influenced a great deal by external forces.

I am a critically endangered species.
I didn't say you listened to them. But you switch off whatsisname because he started trying to tell people what to think about guns. And criticising Heston is like sacrilege when he has tried to do the exact same thing - tell people what to think about guns.

So - you don't dislike whatsisname because he tried to tell people what to think about guns. You dislike him because he tried to tell people to be anti-guns, unlike Heston who you like and who tried to tell people not to be anti-guns.

It's a minor point.
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Old 07-11-2014, 07:11 PM   #1626
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How is it that being an actor suddenly adds weight to a person's opinion?
I reckon it's because they're easier to notice/harder to miss. It's kind of part of their function, getting noticed "... there *is* no bad publicity."
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Does it work in both directions? Should pundits show up on sets and start telling people how to act?

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I think they already do that, but they're not showing up on the set, they're doing it from where they write/speak (which is often a television set).
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Old 07-12-2014, 12:21 PM   #1627
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Yeah, I love submarine movies, but, that one wasn't too hot.
I know, despite the nuclear reactor meltdown!
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Old 07-12-2014, 12:49 PM   #1628
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That's because it was water cooled.

It's still in theaters, but when it comes around I'd highly recommend Jersey Boys . I wasn't a big Four Seasons fan, I'd listen on the radio but didn't buy their records. Too hard to sing along with Frankie Valli, although late at night alone in the car, I'd sound bad trying.

I saw this movie on a "yes dear" and was very pleasantly surprise... very. It's much more than singing group hits big time, fades, and hits nostalgia trail, that I expected. The story of the group, the music business, and well, Jersey, is well told and only embellished within artistic license, I think.

I may have been fooled because I'm not up on the real Four Seasons' story, but I was sure entertained. Three thumbs
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Old 07-12-2014, 01:26 PM   #1629
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How is it that being an actor suddenly adds weight to a person's opinion? Does it work in both directions? Should pundits show up on sets and start telling people how to act?
Most pundits usually are just acting like they know something anyway. Actors and pundits have weight added to their opinion for the same reason - a TV camera is pointed at them.
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Old 07-12-2014, 02:53 PM   #1630
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DAMN! All those years wasted on the wrong side of the camera. So close, but so far.
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Old 07-12-2014, 05:00 PM   #1631
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I tend to switch off when actors and the like start with the polemics. Regardless of whether I agree with them.

I don't find myself not watching/liking them for it as actors though. I'm happy to separate the actor from their views when they star in a movie. Otherwise I'd never watch anything with Tom Cruise or Kelsey Grammar in it.
Yup, me too. I've been seriously disappointed by the conservative 'righty-speak' of some actors, but I've never really banned myself from watching them.

(Tom Cruise is just a bit looney in real life, but I still him in his movies.)
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Old 07-12-2014, 07:35 PM   #1632
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Yup, me too. I've been seriously disappointed by the conservative 'righty-speak' of some actors, but I've never really banned myself from watching them.

(Tom Cruise is just a bit looney in real life, but I still him in his movies.)
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Old 07-13-2014, 02:23 PM   #1633
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:32 PM   #1634
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My son has been watching My Cat from Hell, which features a cat whisperer with an awful name that he gave himself. But it's actually a cool show.
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:26 PM   #1635
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And criticising Heston is like sacrilege when he has tried to do the exact same thing - tell people what to think about guns.
So, I can't like and respect someone who likes and promotes guns, just because they like and promote guns? It's not possible that I thought Charlton Heston was a badass long before I knew shit about guns or politics? Is it possible that I can think the same thing as a famous person and my opinion not be a product of that person's political influence?

I respect you, despite your stated position on any number of issues. Should I rethink liking and respecting you? Because, you aren't shy about letting it be known you don't like our gun laws, or guns in general, and I like guns. (Sidenote: Why do you give the first happy damn about our politics? Srs question.)

I'm sure not feeling respected. But, then, I rarely have, here.

Also, you might try looking up and watching the damn videos.

It's not ok for anybody to tell anybody how/what to think. That includes you and me. I'm not out here saying you have to like guns. You can dislike them all you want. But don't turn into a gorilla and climb up on my back if I happen to mention something about guns.
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