Interesting graphs and charts department - Page 184

Flint · 03-25-2020, 04:33 PM

is 1217 or 3692 bigger?
granted, at different times (and not knowing where in the curve)

but, Trump: "we're doing SEVEN TIMES BETTER than S.Korea"

or 1/3 as good, but whatever, USA is #1 at everything

Undertoad · 03-25-2020, 04:36 PM

Ask again in ten days!

Flint · 03-25-2020, 04:36 PM

this tweet is still dumb in ten days

BigV · 03-25-2020, 04:48 PM

so, using the numbers from your site, the number of tests per million rises to 23. almost five times better, but equally pathetic.

BigV · 03-25-2020, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

But, for the same reason, "tests per million" varies according to when measured. Early in the curve, you don't have as many people to actually test.

But as of Mar. 25, the US has tested 1217 per million. If currently graphed like B.I. did, the US would be 3rd.

Early in the curve you don't have as many people to actually test?

What does that mean? We have the same population "early" as we do "later".

The CRUCIAL piece of information you know is missing but haven't put your finger on is that the leadership informing the population about the situation and the importance of testing, "early in the curve", *that is* what was missing.

We had plenty of people, but a deficit of leadership.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-25-2020, 05:18 PM

But telling people that getting tested is important when tests aren't available could be worse.

Undertoad · 03-25-2020, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

Early in the curve you don't have as many people to actually test?

What does that mean? We have the same population "early" as we do "later".

It means, early in the curve, you don't have as many people who are symptomatic, so you don't test as many people. You only test people who are symptomatic.

Also the test at that time took 3 days to return, so we are looking at time of result, not date of test. First death was Feb 29, do you think we suddenly should have tested 100,000 random people the next day?

Quote:

The CRUCIAL piece of information you know is missing but haven't put your finger on is that the leadership informing the population about the situation and the importance of testing, "early in the curve", *that is* what was missing.

But the people don't need to know about testing. The doctors do. They don't take direction from the President.

Quote:

you know is missing but haven't put your finger on

Attack my argument, not me.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-25-2020, 06:01 PM

We need 329 million rectal thermometers.

BigV · 03-25-2020, 06:13 PM

The part of your ARGUMENT that is missing in order to make sense ....

Your argument posits that the "lack of people" kept the test numbers low. I contend that the lack of leadership kept (almost) all of the people from being tested because they were being told, "you have, what? fifteen people, and in a couple of days that will be close to zero". That is the lack of leadership I speak of. That is what I'm talking about.

If we'd had more/better leadership, telling us truthful, pertinent, factual information, information he had or should have had (Fucking Burr had it, shared it, acted on it), more people would have been motivated to get tested. But no.

This is what I meant by you/your argument sensed/misidentified. I'm not attacking you.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-27-2020, 12:27 AM

The less safe parts of you flight.
From an FAA pdf on Aeronautical decision-making (ADM)

Undertoad · 03-27-2020, 10:16 AM

Quote:

we will need to wait another week to see if anyone's position has changed during the last few days

Three days' worth of rolling average is in and shows the change. I'm not saying this is good or bad or worthy or unworthy. I am looking to understand the world.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

Gravdigr · 03-27-2020, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

We need 329 million rectal thermometers.

No, you need 328,999,999 rectal thermometers, cuz I'm out of here

glatt · 03-28-2020, 08:27 AM

How long has the Census been open? Two weeks?

In my immediate neighborhood, tract 1013, 45.7% have already filled out thier forms. That's better than the 30.2% nationwide and 20.6% in West Virginia.

You can really drill down into the local response rates using the search features in the link below.

https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

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Undertoad · 03-29-2020, 02:07 PM

Silver lining dep't: if you don't leave your house, you don't get into a car accident, don't have a work accident, don't get shot, are less likely to get the traditional flu, etc. etc.... mortality from OTHER THINGS seems to be way down.

Disclaimer: this is from some guy on Twitter but he claims to get the weekly death numbers from the CDC.

Happy Monkey · 03-29-2020, 02:36 PM

A point in favor of Solaria.

03-25-2020, 04:33 PM	#2746
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	is 1217 or 3692 bigger? granted, at different times (and not knowing where in the curve) but, Trump: "we're doing SEVEN TIMES BETTER than S.Korea" or 1/3 as good, but whatever, USA is #1 at everything __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-25-2020, 04:36 PM	#2748
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	this tweet is still dumb in ten days __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-25-2020, 04:48 PM	#2749
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	so, using the numbers from your site, the number of tests per million rises to 23. almost five times better, but equally pathetic. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

03-25-2020, 05:18 PM	#2751
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	But telling people that getting tested is important when tests aren't available could be worse. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-25-2020, 06:01 PM	#2753
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	We need 329 million rectal thermometers. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-25-2020, 04:36 PM	#2747
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Ask again in ten days!

03-25-2020, 06:13 PM	#2754
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	The part of your ARGUMENT that is missing in order to make sense .... Your argument posits that the "lack of people" kept the test numbers low. I contend that the lack of leadership kept (almost) all of the people from being tested because they were being told, "you have, what? fifteen people, and in a couple of days that will be close to zero". That is the lack of leadership I speak of. That is what I'm talking about. If we'd had more/better leadership, telling us truthful, pertinent, factual information, information he had or should have had (Fucking Burr had it, shared it, acted on it), more people would have been motivated to get tested. But no. This is what I meant by you/your argument sensed/misidentified. I'm not attacking you. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

03-27-2020, 12:27 AM	#2755
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The less safe parts of you flight. From an FAA pdf on Aeronautical decision-making (ADM) Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-28-2020, 08:27 AM	#2758
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	How long has the Census been open? Two weeks? In my immediate neighborhood, tract 1013, 45.7% have already filled out thier forms. That's better than the 30.2% nationwide and 20.6% in West Virginia. You can really drill down into the local response rates using the search features in the link below. https://2020census.gov/en/response-rates.html

03-29-2020, 02:07 PM	#2759
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Silver lining dep't: if you don't leave your house, you don't get into a car accident, don't have a work accident, don't get shot, are less likely to get the traditional flu, etc. etc.... mortality from OTHER THINGS seems to be way down. Disclaimer: this is from some guy on Twitter but he claims to get the weekly death numbers from the CDC.

03-29-2020, 02:36 PM	#2760
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	A point in favor of Solaria. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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