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Happy Monkey · 09-14-2015, 07:53 PM

When I was a kid I "salvaged" a toy that was leaning against a trash can... I've since wondered whether a kid had just left it there, and I actually stole it.

Clodfobble · 09-14-2015, 10:10 PM

I once kind of date-raped a guy.

I mean, obviously it's not like there was physical force, or even a direct "no" on his part. But he expressed uneasiness, and if the genders were switched I think a lot of people would be uncomfortable with it. And of course at the time I would never, ever have assessed the situation in that way. I was buying into the typical model that says of course guys always want to have sex, so his uneasiness must mean there was something wrong with me, and I should therefore try harder to fix it. I was honestly trying really hard to do the right thing.

It's only in recent years that I've thought back on it and really realized how terrified and uncomfortable he was. I wish I hadn't done it.

Gravdigr · 09-15-2015, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I wish I hadn't done it.

I guarantee you, he does not feel that way.

Unless you were reeeeeally ugly as a teenager, which I doubt.

lumberjim · 09-15-2015, 03:06 PM

I peed on Paul Bidez

he was sitting with his back to me with his shirt off, and I peed right on his back on purpose.

he had it coming. I'm not sorry

Clodfobble · 09-15-2015, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

I guarantee you, he does not feel that way.

I am pretty sure he does. Our relationship lasted over a year, and during that whole time we successfully had sex maybe 6 times, and unsuccessfully attempted maybe another dozen. It was an issue we mostly just refused to address. At one point I gently suggested he might be gay, and he pretty vehemently disagreed, and for what it's worth he has since continued dating women to the best of my knowledge. But the girl he dated right after me was still in high school (16 to his 22? 23?) and I am 99% sure they were just holding hands and chastely kissing.

sexobon · 09-15-2015, 08:04 PM

Think maybe he was saving himself for marriage and you stole his virginity?

Undertoad · 09-15-2015, 08:10 PM

A M2F TS friend had a girlfriend for five years before switching teams. She told me that they had done the compleat deed five times. Average one per year.

lumberjim · 09-16-2015, 01:34 AM

Fag

it · 09-16-2015, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I am pretty sure he does. Our relationship lasted over a year, and during that whole time we successfully had sex maybe 6 times, and unsuccessfully attempted maybe another dozen. It was an issue we mostly just refused to address. At one point I gently suggested he might be gay, and he pretty vehemently disagreed, and for what it's worth he has since continued dating women to the best of my knowledge. But the girl he dated right after me was still in high school (16 to his 22? 23?) and I am 99% sure they were just holding hands and chastely kissing.

That's more or less to be expected - sociologically there's a very limited tool set available to him in terms of understanding what he himself is going through.

For what it's worth, I consider it of a lot more merit that you are able to admit to yourself what happened and see it from a negative light and implications that are less then comfortable. IME the only people who can be trusted to avoid hurting those around them and people they care about are the people who can acknowledge when they hurt others in the first place, and that's something you can't take for granted. My 2 cents.

it · 09-16-2015, 05:21 AM

In the 2nd Lebanon war they gave us (artillery) the order to secure a large parameter. This in itself was part of the news scandal later of horrible judgement among the generals when the war was investigated.

At one point there was a blue van - if they heard the speakers telling them to stop and identify themselves, they didn't respond. My superior wasn't availble and I took the shot.

They could have been terrorists trying to push a team through, or they could have been refugees who were running away or weren't able to hear properly in the bombing and noise for any number of reasons. There wasn't much a chance to investigate after, and a few days later a friend I've made who normally worked in the medical profiling department of the drafting center was able to make a phone call and help me get a transfer into a non-combatant profile.

Sometimes I liked to rationalize that I had no choice, that's what everyone else was doing... But that's bullshit. Sure, they could have been terrorists, but In my nightmares it's usually a bunch of families running away with their children trying to reach safety. Frankly my intuition leans towards the later.

glatt · 09-16-2015, 08:31 AM

I know my words will mean nothing, and that it's your own conscience that's haunting you, but I think you did the best you could at the time. You had been trained to behave in a certain way, you had orders to behave in a certain way, they were supposed to stop when they heard the loudspeakers, and they didn't, and you were supposed to shoot if they didn't. You did what you were supposed to do in a fucked up situation. And the fact that you feel badly about it means that you're not a sociopath.

DanaC · 09-16-2015, 02:50 PM

Wise words, glatt.

Gravdigr · 09-16-2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

I am pretty sure he does. Our relationship lasted over a year, and during that whole time we successfully had sex maybe 6 times, and unsuccessfully attempted maybe another dozen. It was an issue we mostly just refused to address. At one point I gently suggested he might be gay, and he pretty vehemently disagreed, and for what it's worth he has since continued dating women to the best of my knowledge. But the girl he dated right after me was still in high school (16 to his 22? 23?) and I am 99% sure they were just holding hands and chastely kissing.

This man is gay, he just may not be aware of it.

fargon · 09-16-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

I peed on Paul Bidez

he was sitting with his back to me with his shirt off, and I peed right on his back on purpose.

he had it coming. I'm not sorry

Why would you do such a thing?

glatt · 09-16-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Our relationship lasted over a year, and during that whole time we successfully had sex maybe 6 times, and unsuccessfully attempted maybe another dozen. It was an issue we mostly just refused to address. At one point I gently suggested he might be gay, and he pretty vehemently disagreed, and for what it's worth he has since continued dating women to the best of my knowledge. But the girl he dated right after me was still in high school (16 to his 22? 23?)

Together for a year? That changes everything. I thought you were talking about a one night stand.

So how close were you otherwise? Did you spend a lot of time together and click?

So if he was 22 for the next girlfriend after being with you for a year, then he was 21 for you? Was this all in college? This was college, wasn't it? Was this a hang out together once a week kind of thing, and visit each other's dorm rooms? Or were you a couple who were together a lot?

I'm trying to remember college. It was a lot more casual then and you would be apart for bigger stretches of time and live your own life.

09-14-2015, 07:53 PM	#16
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	When I was a kid I "salvaged" a toy that was leaning against a trash can... I've since wondered whether a kid had just left it there, and I actually stole it. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-14-2015, 10:10 PM	#17
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I once kind of date-raped a guy. I mean, obviously it's not like there was physical force, or even a direct "no" on his part. But he expressed uneasiness, and if the genders were switched I think a lot of people would be uncomfortable with it. And of course at the time I would never, ever have assessed the situation in that way. I was buying into the typical model that says of course guys always want to have sex, so his uneasiness must mean there was something wrong with me, and I should therefore try harder to fix it. I was honestly trying really hard to do the right thing. It's only in recent years that I've thought back on it and really realized how terrified and uncomfortable he was. I wish I hadn't done it. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

09-15-2015, 03:06 PM	#19
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I peed on Paul Bidez he was sitting with his back to me with his shirt off, and I peed right on his back on purpose. he had it coming. I'm not sorry __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Fag __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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09-15-2015, 08:04 PM	#21
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Think maybe he was saving himself for marriage and you stole his virginity?

09-15-2015, 08:10 PM	#22
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	A M2F TS friend had a girlfriend for five years before switching teams. She told me that they had done the compleat deed five times. Average one per year.

09-16-2015, 05:21 AM	#25
it Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 772	In the 2nd Lebanon war they gave us (artillery) the order to secure a large parameter. This in itself was part of the news scandal later of horrible judgement among the generals when the war was investigated. At one point there was a blue van - if they heard the speakers telling them to stop and identify themselves, they didn't respond. My superior wasn't availble and I took the shot. They could have been terrorists trying to push a team through, or they could have been refugees who were running away or weren't able to hear properly in the bombing and noise for any number of reasons. There wasn't much a chance to investigate after, and a few days later a friend I've made who normally worked in the medical profiling department of the drafting center was able to make a phone call and help me get a transfer into a non-combatant profile. Sometimes I liked to rationalize that I had no choice, that's what everyone else was doing... But that's bullshit. Sure, they could have been terrorists, but In my nightmares it's usually a bunch of families running away with their children trying to reach safety. Frankly my intuition leans towards the later.

09-16-2015, 08:31 AM	#26
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I know my words will mean nothing, and that it's your own conscience that's haunting you, but I think you did the best you could at the time. You had been trained to behave in a certain way, you had orders to behave in a certain way, they were supposed to stop when they heard the loudspeakers, and they didn't, and you were supposed to shoot if they didn't. You did what you were supposed to do in a fucked up situation. And the fact that you feel badly about it means that you're not a sociopath.

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